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Trump has stated he will cut American aid to Ukraine, which makes a majority of total aid. Recently Zelensky stated that if Ukraine's only hope for sovereignty is its own nuclear arsenal, they will build it.

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[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (7 children)

I thought politics was banned

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[–] sirico@feddit.uk 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Russia's side of Ukraine owning them was broken

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Even if they have the ability to build one, and do so without Russia turning the facility where they're building it into rubble with hypersonic missiles, they would need dozens to have full MAD type protection.

Does Ukraine even have a missile system capable of carrying that kind of payload as far as Moscow?

[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 1 points 6 days ago

Maybe not anymore, but they had a few orbital rockets:

They definitely had the talent to do so, but realistically they couldn't build one today :(

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 3 points 6 days ago

I know nothing about the subject but doesn't it require a massive infrastructure investment and time that Ukraine can't afford right now? I mean even Zaporizhzhia is controlled by the invaders, though I'm not sure if it's there where they would produce fissile materials. Furthermore, Ukraine's remaining allies are staunch anti-nuclear proliferation.

[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 3 points 6 days ago

Who's going to supply them with uranium and parts? The French? lol

[–] anticurrent@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Every country should have the freedom to build their own nukes while we are at it.

The only country who dared used their bombs, and twice, is the US, and did it while there was no need for it. so I don't see how some countries are taking the moral high ground about who should and shouldn't have nukes, it is mostly about about who should and should impose their imperialism with the help of nukes.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

dumb ideas that could end the world.

Imagine if your neighbor 20 miles away decided they were going to build the world's largest nuclear warhead.

They're doing it in their home. It doesn't impact you, right?

[–] anticurrent@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago

why should some have nukes and others not?

Were they given divine mandate ? are they superior human beings ? explain !!

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago (5 children)

No. Nuclear weapons should not exist.

Kurzgesagt recently made a video on the nuclear arms race. The end of the race was when the guy who invented the hydrogen bomb invented a bomb that could destroy the entire planet. The bomb wouldn't even need to be dropped onto your enemy. It could be built inside your own country and detonated any time at all to end humanity. He thought of it as the biggest deterrent to war. Nobody else did. Politicians and military leaders threw out the idea entirely. Why would anyone detonate a nuclear bomb inside their own country??

The size of that bomb pales in comparison to the size of all nuclear weapons in existence today. We built that bomb. It's just not one giant bomb, but split into 12,000 parts and spread over the world. Is it any different? If you cannot justify building a nuclear weapon that would destroy your own country to destroy another, how can you justify building any nuclear weapons at all?

That video taught me that Project Sundial should have gone ahead.

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