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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 149 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Are ya'll ready for how fucked we are? None of this shit is getting fixed, considering we're still living with Reagan's damages.

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Maybe I’m naïve, but I’m hoping their overreach is so bad that the pendulum aggressively swings back in the other direction.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think you underestimate the rippling damage that four years of Trump loyalists running the HHS, FDA, CDC, EPA, DoE, CIA, FBI, etc. can do to the world.

That’s on top of the damage from rapidly repealing regulations by the President.

Even if we replace the whole government with progressives, it’ll take decades to fix, assuming we survive that long.

[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago

Eventually. It will. How long? That's impossible to say. As is how bad it will get before a correction occurs. Hitler was in power for twelve years. 70-85 million people died during his reign between slaughters and fighting. And Germany was not the strongest nation in the world (and definitely not the strongest by a wide margin) at that time. Imagine Germany starting off 1933 with the military might to fight two wars at once with the two strongest nations on the planet. And imagine their border was basically impenetrable by any combined force of countries while they fought those two wars. That could easily be where we're going to be at. No one is coming to save us.

That'd be nice and I'm sure sentiment will swing but I don't think they'd go through all this trouble of remaking the government (and essentially the whole country) just to get "voted out" and have to spend billions more regaining power. It'll be way cheaper just to rig things.

[–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Tariffs alone will probably lead to a very bleak outlook for Republicans in the midterm elections.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

Maybe the opposite. Biden’s policies turned the economy around. All the numbers look good and were poised for growth that Trump will take credit for

How quickly and widely will he actually apply tariffs? If they don’t take widespread effect for two years, they’re home free

[–] socsa@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That's kind of why I don't think the RFK stuff is actually going to happen. Trump can sell the economic populism stuff but he lost in 2020 because of anger over public health. Letting RFK be crazy is just going to cause headaches.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

Trump will just take no responsibility. He'll blame RFK Jr for all the things that go wrong. Maybe he'll eventually get fired but at that point the damage will already be done. Trump will just say "Ah, he screwed me, I would have done the exact same thing but it would have worked, I'm a smart guy, I'll fix it or appoint someone else to fix it." And then it won't be fixed.

So if RFK Jr. is smart he'll just do a little bit of damage over time. Alternatively if there is a ton of chaos on day 1, then just add to the chaos. People can only be angry at so many things at one time.

We'll still have the same health care as we do now. It'll just be way more expensive and inaccessible to anyone but the rich or party loyalists. Basically "join us or die... slowly."

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What till you see the Liberty Law School zealots who find their way to SCOTUS for lifetime appointments

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 65 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The worst part about this is that it will take 20 years for the damages of this to become really apparent, and the dumb fucks who voted for trump will just blame whoever is currently in charge. Or claim that Democrats have some kind of disease gun.

[–] graycube@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I think it will have impact a lot sooner than 20 years. As soon as no one can trace the next listeria or salmonella outbreak, or evenrecognize there is a flu epidemic happening, or whatever. There will be kids dieing from bad ice cream before summer is over.

[–] Blum0108@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

But fried ice cream is so good

[–] graycube@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Of course, if you don't collect any data on it so no one will know. Problem solved.

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

It's the Russian way. And the US is now a Russian vassal state.

[–] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago

What a time to be immunocompromised.

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago (8 children)
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[–] MeatPilot@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

. . . to be replaced by bloodsucking leeches no doubt

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

His brain worm is going to feel so betrayed.

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Neither are going to like the bleach much.

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The kennedy clan are known to be very protective of their reputation, hence being so reluctant to speak out about the insane russian asset in the family.

I'm going to enjoy watching their family name associated with the largest rise in preventable deaths in american history. At least until I contract polio.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Pay attention. They've spoken out a lot.

[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So will insurance companies stop covering vaccines after the federal government no longer supports/requires them? I guess state education departments could still require them.....right?

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

So will insurance companies stop covering vaccines after the federal government no longer supports/requires them?

I'm betting insurance companies will still cover vaccines. If they didn't covered individuals will still get sick and consume even more costly medical, hospital, and surgical services. Getting customer to get vaccines are good business for insurance companies.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Unless regulation is so loose they basically don't have to pay a damn thing even when you get sick.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Unless regulation is so loose they basically don’t have to pay a damn thing even when you get sick.

If it gets that bad, then people will simply drop insurance.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Not unless they keep the regulation that ACA established where you need to be covered at a certain level. That way insurance companies can literally just collect money and not actually have to pay for anything.

[–] fern@lemmy.autism.place 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My insurance tries to get out of everything, but I cannot leave because it's legally mandated that I must buy it.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

In the USA at least, the mandate was dropped by Supreme Court decision.

[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

If they didn't covered individuals will still get sick and consume even more costly medical, hospital, and surgical services.

So is covering preventative care like physical therapy after an injury so you can heal correctly and not require further treatments but my insurance gives diddly for PT. They should cover gym memberships and aerobic classes too. If they can deny coverage for smoking them I should get extra benefits if I exercise and eat properly.

We just don't know what is gonna happen next year when the shit hits the country.

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Yikes. Awful decision here.

I really hope someone is keeping a list of all of the saboteur hires, not just the cabinet level posts but stuff like this, in case we have the chance to remove them later.

I know in Mexico and other countries higher on the corruption index, where there are still elections that aren't pre-decided but a lot of additional corruption and arbitrary politicking, this purge-and-replace cycle happens every election. It's so unfortunate but may just be the new way of doing things, even if somehow we retain democratic elections.

[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 6 points 2 days ago

Vaccinate while you can, this is gonna be a hell of a ride

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Probably a whole lot more than that. This is just the start.

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