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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Remember back in the past, when Democrats were communists and Republicans were social Democrats? Oh wait, that never happened, this graph is nonsense

[–] frazw@lemmy.world -1 points 1 hour ago

This is recent history, not all history, and FYI it is a meme not a scientific study.

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 3 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

This could mean that there’s room on the left for a brand new party.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

Only if America will implement proportional representation

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

It could if we weren't locked into a two party system.

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, if there ever was a time for a grass roots growing of a third party, it would be NOW, not a year before the election with Putin-stooge Jill Stein.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

I can agree with that, but I'm not sure it will happen. And like most people I'm too busy trying to keep a non-negative balance in the checkbook to do much about it.

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 2 points 2 hours ago

There are plenty of people trying but it is clearly not working

[–] USNWoodwork@lemmy.world 14 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

This fails to recognize that for a very long time things trended left. I remember talking to someone in the 90s and we went down a list of major issues and the left had essentially won on all of them. Roe vs Wade EPA Gay Marriage Welfare Reform and Child Tax Credits

My hope for the Democratic party is that they go to a single issue for the next National election, and that issue should be Anti-trust/Breaking up monopolies

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 minute ago

You'd need to explain how this helps the average person.

Bearing in mind that these employers have hundreds of thousands of people working for them, you would need to somehow ensure that people aren't voting for a spike in unemployment.

FWIW I don't disagree at all, but how would this be implemented in practice, and how would it be framed as a good thing for those employed by those companies?

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 1 points 2 hours ago

Things should be progressing no? that's the whole point of being the "progressive party"

[–] brianary@startrek.website 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

That's an important issue, but if Democrats ever see power again, it'll be important to focus on re-enfranchisement (RCV, instant runoff, or anything fairer than FPTP; NPVIC; national mail voting; mandatory voting), on judicial reform to undo the corruption and incompetence that has been packed there. Without those, keeping any gains will be impossible.

Then, triaging existential threats is critical, which will mean fighting climate change, investing in public transport (trains), and breaking up trusts will have to be pursued simultaneously. Stopping any support for genocide needs to happen as soon as possible.

There will be plenty more structural changes to fix beyond that: Protecting whistleblowers and protesters, improving FOIA, replacing norms with laws (Emoluments Clause enforcement, financial records disclosure, no insider trading for Congressmembers, &c), and all manner of civil rights protections and police reform.

After all that, it'll be time for the stuff I've been hoping for: nationalizing healthcare and Internet access, and copyright reform.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 minutes ago

NPVIC ain't going to happen. Not for at least another 40 years or so.

It was a great idea, but this (so-called) Supreme Court would absolutely shut it down in no time flat. The balance of this court isn't likely to shift for a very, very long time.

The only solution to get rid of EC before then will be a massive movement that results in a constitutional amendment.

Tl/Dr: start pre-lubing your assholes now, they ain't gonna help you there.

[–] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 hour ago

Sadly, support for genocide won't be an issue by the midterms.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

not saying i disagree, but people always link this article as though it even has a section on partisan politics. it doesn’t, or really even pose any evidence that suggests the effect applies to the overton window. would be curious if there are any sources that pose evidence.

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[–] Cenotaph@mander.xyz 109 points 1 day ago

Meet me in the middle, says the unjust man. You take a step towards him, he takes a step back. Meet me in the middle, says the unjust man.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 24 points 22 hours ago

The Overton Window is set in an abandoned lot. The house burned down a long time ago.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (6 children)

The rightward shift of the GOP and the tendency of the seemingly infinite number of spineless Dem careerist politicians to seek compromise is very real, but please remember the 90s and 2000s, everyone. They were not as rosy and left-wing as you remember; while not nearly enough, the Dems are notably more left than they were then.

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