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Dawson City in Canada is facing a crisis as the new mayor and councillors won’t take the required oath of allegiance to King Charles.

They refused in support of an Indigenous councillor who opposes the oath due to the Crown’s history with Indigenous people.

Without the oath, their election could be canceled, and they can’t make official decisions.

The council has asked for a different oath, but Yukon law requires the pledge. Authorities are now looking into the situation.

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[–] PumpkinSkink@lemmy.world 22 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Imagine swearing fealty to a monarch in 2024.

[–] mack7400@lemmy.world 8 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I'm jelly of Americans, who will never have to deal with that bullshit. Nope, not at all!

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago

Hey now, pledging allegiance to an inanimate object makes way more sense.

[–] dipcart@lemmy.world 28 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I really hope this is able to set a precedent. Would be great to not inflict this guy on people.

[–] buttfarts@lemy.lol 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

As a Canadian I say send them to the stocks until they learn fealty to the king!

[–] dipcart@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

You make a compelling argument I hadn't considered. I will, however, counter by saying we should have a Kaiser instead.

[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 23 points 5 hours ago

Toss the tea in the harbor!

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 34 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

As an American I 1000 percent approve!

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 11 points 4 hours ago

Many though seem to want King Donald the First.

[–] bighatchester@lemmy.world 57 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Based . I would do the same fuck Charles .

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 12 points 5 hours ago

I am your king!

Well, I didn't vote for you…

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 13 points 9 hours ago

fuck Charles

You may not have a choice.

[–] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 114 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Québec has gotten rid of the royal oath requirement, surely Yukon can think of something.

[–] BenVimes@lemmy.ca 26 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I am only a Canadian, and not a Canadian lawyer, but I don't think it will be as simple for Yukon. The biggest reason I can think of is that Yukon is a territory, and not a province, and so has different constitutional standing. From the government webpage:

There is a clear constitutional distinction between provinces and territories. While provinces exercise constitutional powers in their own right, the territories exercise delegated powers under the authority of the Parliament of Canada.

I'm not saying it isn't possible, just that the same legal maneuvers Quebec used may not be applicable.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 1 points 35 minutes ago (1 children)

Also, doesn't Québec have some special considerations above the rest of the provinces? I seem to recall we deigned them a 'nation within a nation' or some such back in the mid 00's. I'm not sure if there were any legal ramifications to that, though.

[–] BenVimes@lemmy.ca 1 points 15 minutes ago

They might, but I can't say for certain. I didn't mention it because, again, I'm not a Canadian lawyer, and the basic info on provinces vs territories was far more accessible.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 74 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Monarchism is a anarchronism and should have been thrown out with the rest of English colonialism. I am annoyed as fuck that I had to apply to "His Majesty's Passport Office" for my passport.

[–] Eiri@lemmy.ca 12 points 9 hours ago (5 children)

Weren't people a bit more positive about monarchy back when Elizabeth II was alive? I feel like she had a sort of mystique that made her feel more legit for some reason.

[–] Aphelion@lemm.ee 10 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

He's widely unpopular in the UK because he's very politically involved via the massive amount of lobbying efforts he personally funds; something that the crown specifically promised not to do. Then there's Charles' hush money payments to cover up Prince Andrew's "indiscretions" with their family friend, Jeffrey Epstein.

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Rumour has it that Charles is incredibly angry about the whole thing and Andrew is very much in danger of being cut off completely if he doesn't keep his head down, so while Charles has paid people off, he has not forgiven or forgotten.

There's also that he wasn't king at the time he made those payments and may have been protecting their mother rather than his brother at the time. Andrew, idiot though he is, was the Queen's favourite.

Had the Queen already been dead and Charles been king at the time the news broke, he might well have let Andrew suffer the consequences.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Uh huh, but then he paid hush money. But he is angry! He is furious about "the whole thing".

Dude, come on.

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 1 points 28 minutes ago

I never said what he did was right, only why he might have done it.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 9 points 5 hours ago

She was more relatable. She had corgis. She loved cows. She was an ambulance driver and mechanic during WWII. Nobody likes Charles.

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 hours ago

The Queen's face and name has been on everything for decades. There are Canadians in their 70s who never knew anything different. That's just the way things were. It was tradition. That's how I saw it anyways. Anyone who complained about it was just complaining about a symbolic action we've all been doing for generations. Nobody is actually swearing their life to the queen--it's just a tradition. Then she died.

Now some random old guy's face and name is going to be on everything. If we're going to change everything anyways, then why not change it to something different? The argument that was seen as a small complaint before now makes a lot of sense. If we're changing the words to our oath anyways, then why not change them to words we can all agree on?

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 hours ago

Everyone loved the powder pink lizard queen.

[–] SacredHeartAttack@lemmy.world 16 points 9 hours ago

Cause fuck him, that’s why.

[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 7 points 9 hours ago

Dawson city is so based. Toyed with the idea of moving there for years

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

Call second elections so that people can vote for them again.