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Harris campaign internal polling never had her leading Trump (hexbear.net)
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This makes her “strategy” even more baffling than before. How do you know you are down the entire time and do absolutely nothing about policy?

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[–] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 43 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I've been reading Nixonland and my biggest takeaway so far is that we have been living in Richard Nixon's America for the last 60 years. You mean to tell me, you don't know how to combat racist demagoguery, opportunists, and right-wing sickos? You mean to tell me that we just get to sit and watch the so-called adults in the room flail in the same way the liberals (who were nominally BETTER, because they believed in funding government programs) flop and scream "not fair not fair".

Not to sound cringe or joker-che, but Americans deserve better ~~crooks~~ politicians.

[–] TomBombadil@hexbear.net 47 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Hey if you had the chance to spend $1.5 billion in a few months wouldn't you take it

[–] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Brewsters millions but worse

[–] ellen_musk_0x@lemm.ee 1 points 4 hours ago

A rare film where the remake was better

[–] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 41 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I would have spent 1.5 billions just paying people's debts and saying "brought to you by the Kamala Harris campaign".

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Yo, somebody get this Marxist a strategy position somewhere. That's a fucking amazing idea

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 4 points 10 hours ago

The Democratic institution would never stand for giving collected funds to anyone but rich people.

It would make a good strategy for the PSL though. Now that they've gotten 0.1% of the vote, instead of running a conventional campaign, they could do 20% what they've already been doing, and 80% "this debt has been forgiven of you by the PSL, vote for us" and build a reputation as the people who go around forgiving debt (instead of the people who show up at all the peaceful protests with those yellow-and-black signs).

[–] sisatici@hexbear.net 14 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Tbh that seems very illegal. Not that laws apply to ruling class

[–] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 7 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

John Oliver did the biggest debt relief thing ages ago. Just bought loads of abandonded debt for cheap and declared that he wouldn't pursue it. He sucks, but that was pretty cool and funny. Here's the relevant bit

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 11 hours ago

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[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 17 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

IIRC you can buy lots of kinds of debt for cheap (though not most student debt), and then could just discharge it.

E: Might need to have a registered corporation or something but fuck they have $1.5B they can set that up.

[–] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] Firstnamebunchofnumbers@hexbear.net 25 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Id spend it on furry commisions

[–] Florn@hexbear.net 17 points 22 hours ago

Why do you think there's so many hyena harrises floating around?

[–] TheModerateTankie@hexbear.net 31 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Shoulda went with Hillary. hillary-contempt

[–] AshenWolf@hexbear.net 4 points 9 hours ago

The only correct assessment hillary-assassin

[–] asg101@hexbear.net 130 points 1 day ago (3 children)

They got the victory they wanted, muting and eliminating any progressive elements in their wing of the corporate party. Winning the presidency was secondary to crushing dissent from the left.

[–] SerLava@hexbear.net 41 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

I'm currently researching to write an article about this exact thing. I heard that they were literally getting consulting from current UK Labor Party people. I think it was intentional that they sent Bill Clinton and Richie Torres to Michigan. I think they wanted to lose the Muslim vote and pick up imaginary embarrassed suburban women that the data wouldn't show, even if it really existed. Sort of a leap of faith.

I think they were trying to do a Starmerite purge. The nonprofit-killing bill and the antizionism=antisemitism bills were supposed to be the final nail in the coffin

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[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 88 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I guess this is the answer to how her campaign spent 1.5 billion in 15 weeks.

that's what it was meant to do: acquire a shitload of dough and funnel it through the apparatus for a nice generous skimming off the top by "consultants", and then back into the pockets of corporate allies that make their favorite treats and own the fancy hotel chains and sell the air time of giant media companies.

the contest is incidental to the campaign as a mechanism for accumulating, funneling and reconcentrating wealth.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 76 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This is why I don't think elections are ever in any danger. There's a whole industry around the spectacle, and the outcome doesn't matter anyway.

[–] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 1 points 10 hours ago

For elections to be in danger we'd need to have them in the first place and the US has never held a legitimate election

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)

lathe-of-heaven Military-election complex

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 5 points 17 hours ago

Ooh, that's good. I might start using that. The MEC.

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[–] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 66 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (14 children)

She could've swung for the fences on progressive policies, if she knew she was doomed right? Not like anyone would ever be honest about it, but they ran their perfect centrist anti Trumper campaign and lost which has gotta take the shine off that a little. She could've ran on a Bernie style platform, lost and then they could claim "well see it never works let's never do that again"

[–] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

They crashed and burned so hard that even the king of libs dunked on the concept of winning centrist votes

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[–] miz@hexbear.net 61 points 1 day ago

they dare not suggest that a better world is possible. they just got done shutting that shit down in 2020

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 52 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They can't risk anyone getting the idea that they support progressive causes.

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[–] someone@hexbear.net 97 points 1 day ago (3 children)

How do you know you are down the entire time and do absolutely nothing about policy?

Because her superiors on Wall Street don't care what party wins, just that policies never change.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 58 points 1 day ago

Li: At the moment, the Chinese the party state has proven an extraordinary ability to change. I mean, I make the joke: “in America you can change the political party, but you can’t change the policies. In China you cannot change the party, but you can change policies.” So, in the past 66 years, China has been run by one single party. Yet the political changes that have taken place in China in these past 66 years have been wider, and broader, and greater than probably any other major country in modern memory.

Pilger: So in that time China ceased to be communist. Is that what you’re saying?

Li: Well, China is a market economy, and it’s a vibrant market economy. But it is not a capitalist country. Here’s why: there’s no way a group of billionaires could control the Politburo as billionaires control American policy-making. So in China you have a vibrant market economy, but capital does not rise above political authority. Capital does not have enshrined rights. In America, capital — the interests of capital and capital itself — has risen above the American nation. The political authority cannot check the power of capital. That’s why America is a capitalist country, and China is not.

from https://redsails.org/china-has-billionaires/

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[–] gaystyleJoker@hexbear.net 48 points 1 day ago

it was her turn, for god's sake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! fuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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