You do something about the bases, the pedos and the carriers first then you can come back with "a battle for our national interests" lol. Lame ass liberal opportunist shit, completely spineless in reality.
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As an additional point, it is also strategically prudent for China to let the regional conflicts elsewhere distract the empire against itself.
What are you even talking about. How is Israel distracting the US from China when Xi went to San Francisco to meet Biden on November 15th 2023, literaly less than 45 days into the genocide. When Yellen and Blinken went to China to order them to shut up and fix their industry or else in the following months etc.
The empire can actualy look at 2 places at once, in fact there has not been a single moment of the past 8 years(since Trump 1) where the US hasn't been focused on China, before in Xinjiang etc and now the trade "war".
Like how can you read this article and come out with "and yes its strategicaly beneficial for China to let the genocide continue" when completely the opposite of what the article concluded, like wtf.
Please control+f "contradiction" in that article, I can't imagine someone bashing this point harder than this person tried.
This contradiction within China’s Middle East policy is destined to push the country to reconsider its unsustainable approach. The increasingly dire reality on the occupied land of Palestine will eventually burst the bubble of the illusional fantasy inherited from the short-lived peace process of 1990s-2000s and force China to abandon its unrealistic goal of fraternizing with both sides. Since Israel’s genocide in Gaza, this contradiction in Chinese foreign policy has exacerbated into an unprecedented degree as Israel has threatened to harm Chinese investment if China continues its diplomatic support to Palestine.
They make this point a few times, there is no "strategic victory" for China when your position is unsustainable.
"China nukes Alibaba's payment IPO and humbles Jack Ma"
You seem like you're unaware but you're kind of at least 6 months out of date btw.
I don't think the whole CPC owns the billionaires narrative is particularly compelling these days when China is also the country with literaly the most of them and in any case if "exile" is only temporary why should anyone give a shit?
. But if there is any prospect that AI development poses a threat to the social and political order Beijing deems acceptable, can anyone be in doubt that it would be halted in its tracks?
Why is this a valid argument at all? This absolute nonsense. Be very conscious here, there is only one reason the west is praising the CPC's stance on AI. Its because they're in favor of it, yet we've been here before, Did anyone forget the dozen a day articles about "draconian" censorship laws and how the CPC is evil bad dictatorship for requiring things like masks and ID-movement tracking during COVID?
Of course they`ll flip the script because for now China is doing exactly what they want. Nobody on the left should be happy about this, at least unironicaly, This is literaly "trust the plan" but capitalists using it against ourselves to justify their own garbage slop.
So we know AI is just garbage slop but if it was realy bad surely China would've just banned it already? Surely it wont turn out exactly like it happened the last time the CPC did a crackdown
AI will be so much bigger than this and no IMO there is a near zero chance the CPC will stop AI if it gets big enough. The only possible time is now or in case of massive public backlash, otherwise its pretty damn indisputable, if the CPC couldn't handle Tencent having a single bad day lol, then they wont bother with their NVDIA size AI slop maker either.
The best we'll get is some "feel good" laws like Chinese teenage gaming laws that barely do anything for the vast majorty, but hey at least they have something so their hands are clean.
This was never about stopping the factory though. It was about forcing BYD to comply with the local labour law on the construction site, I don`t know how you reached that conclusion. We don't even know what will happen to the lawsuit though I wouldn't hope for anything either.
The only difference in this article is some politician said fully functional by "end of 2026" while the BYD guy says "July '26".
All it took was for China to halt Brazilian beef import for Brazil to cave.
So what you're saying is the trade can stop whenever they want to actualy and the reason they don't stop trading with Israel is they're actualy assholes? Yeah I kind of figured that already lol.
God I hope you're not looking at this from a China W angle because that is just funny.
To be fair the reports suggest it was not CR specifically but a third party that provided them with this. Apparently it came from Cygames, publisher of the show. Maybe CR understands not to go the duolingo route, I don't think they're that stupid.
It also doesn't surprise me Cygames would take the cheap out route towards the international market. They're one of the best examples of Japanese boomer mentality at least when it comes to their games. Absolutely completely unsurprising Cygames would cheap out. Its a shame because there are tons of talented people behind their IP's, but Japanese shitty boomer mentality goes brr I guess.
That said fuck CR.
Why did you even think I'd care about this? Like its not 2022 anymore lol. The best use of Chinese military tech is to arm Chinese farmers for a counter revolution against the current fucking garbage T1 cities neoliberal elites. Everything else in these past years has turned out to be nothing but Chinese nationalism grifting.
I think the way he analysis this misses most of the criticism about Voyager. Its not just about how good or bad Janeway's morals are, but her lack of consistency and the show's own narrative e.g the contrast between "scrambling for survival" and abusing the reset button every 3rd episode.
What culminates in In the pale moonlight is already something we kind of expected from Sisko's personality and most importantly the show properly built up to the moment e.g when Sisko mentions the death tolls we had already seen that in person, its not a sandbox situation for that episode only.
The show needed to be consistent about survival being an actual real threat. That way she could still struggle to make the necessary choices but we could understand why. Yet the main issue here is the overall production, the writers and producers not being clear what Voyager should be as a show. Its very rare to get a sense if something realy actualy matters when we know the reset button abuse is present, therefore its also very hard for her to look anything more than a hypocrite at times.
Upholding SF morality while your ship looks pristine from episode to episode yet struggling to make a choice when that randomly isn't the case seems entirely superficial and hypocritical indeed. I think this is what he is missing, its not just about Janeway, it includes the overall problem with the writing of the show.
Iran isnt willing to be the country that offers itself up as a sacrifical lamb for its "allies" of China and Russia, especially when those allies aren't willing (or able) to use that opportunity to make their own moves against NATO's dominance.
I mean yeah China and Russia can go fuck themselves at this point, but the ones Iran should be caring about is Palestine though, this logic doesn't hold up if they thought "welp the groups we supported all either got bombed or killed therefore there is nothing we can do anymore" then they're really stupid and completely clueless.
It was clear since about month 2-3 of the genocide that Israel was taking this to the maximum level as their greatest historical opportunity in decades.
Even now they need to realize once the genocide is successful they'll be next. They shouldn't delude themselves "oh its only another 3 years of Trump if only we can hold off", Biden was self-declared the biggest Zionist and Pro-Nato etc. Democrats will be no less evil and perhaps even more competent than Trump.
They needed to stand up sooner and harder, perhaps the point is already past, we got here exactly because of the rationale you're presenting here. Go look at the struggle sessions we had here over their pathetic response in TP 1 the Iran "non-retaliation" shit was already a huge red flag.
They need those whatever new Russian-Chinese fighter jets, hundreds of them sitting on Iranian airbases, they need a nuke "today" yet these are things that will take months if not years to achieve. They're already behind, they should be looking at the situation with a deadly critical eye. The situation will get worse. Climate change will force Israel towards complete military dominance, it will be necessary for their survival. The MENA is one of the two worst regions to get hit by climate change not 50 years from now but like 10.
What is it with all the global south idiots thinking as if the world is still 1995 and not 2025. As you say, they'll try to avoid the US which only leads them to embracing the devil and living in actual hell.
Nah, only if it happened overnight in 1965 or something. The USSR was already making questionable decisions for years.
The optimism developed since 2022-Ukraine(news mega) here was before people had to confront China and Israel's relationship too. If China "collapsed" ala USSR in 2022 I'd be malding.
The same in 2026 I'd be just speechless and shrugging, in a "we knew it was coming" sort of way. Of course it would be the biggest disaster for humanity etc etc but at the same time who exactly should be surprised by the party embracing e.g Kissinger, Elon Musk, Biden, Yellen, Blinken etc in just these same 5 years? Some people I guess but not everyone. So I don't think its the same.
We only didn’t criticize China because it ends up becoming very successful and reaping quite a lot of benefit out of it (and part of the reason why China isn’t going to give up the status quo anytime soon), but when other countries try to play the same game, they get labeled as compradors.
I'm assuming by "we" you mean Hexbear users because there is no way you've never actualy seen left-critique of China in the past 15 years.
With that assumption you should remember that this community is pretty much the same as r/chapo. We already had the 2022 Ukraine war struggle section that pushed away most of them too and now only moretankiechapo types remained. The pro-China "movement" has been since ~2018 borderline unserious for a reason.
You must remember that this was also at the height of the anti-China propaganda on the west. Suddenly the propaganda went from "lol Chinese empty cities" to Xinjiang genocide and HK protests. "Uncritical support" was a natural consequence of having to battle this because seriously, why would you engage in good faith debate about China's problems with libs thinking the CPC are committing "cultural genocide" by showing google maps false images of supposedly "demolished" Mosques or "concentration camps".
Even today there is literaly no point argueing with anyone about China's problems, you step into almost every other lemmy instance and its the same communism = nazi shit. People pre-emptively assume bad faith through experience.
Its not conductive to academic debate, but in case you mean western Marxism as whole though, I mean just look up the debate on Chinese imperialism, it goes back at least 15 years too.
Plenty of people have been critical of modern China, just not on these online spaces.
Ok so just we're clear. As the genocide continues and if eventually it is successful, given China`s active role in supporting Israel throughout you don't actualy believe this should be a catalyst for a change of modern Chinese FP policy? This was the writer's main point about Chinese contradictions in their FP and their relation with the US and Israel. China's "diplomacy for economic interest" is impossible if the US will just attack and destroy your "trading partners".
If you can't understand this then god you're truly beyond hopeless.