JoeySteel

This article is so bad I almost threw up, thanks a lot op

None of this is news

Maos turn to Nixon and the subsequent shitty foreign policy of China until 1979 (China hasn't been to war since 1979) can basically be described as funding and arming whoever was anti-soviet

There's a reason Maoist groups were heavily infiltrated and funded by the CIA throughout the 70s and 80s (due to their Anti Soviet stance)

Chinas foreign policy since Maos turn to Nixon is essentially "we'll wait, but we must avoid war at all costs".

So Chinas foreign policy has been one of not putting their head above the parapet.

When US imperialists wanted to destroy Yugoslavia China was helping the Yugoslavs and got their embassy bombed for that privilege. They then meekly nodded to everything US imperialism wanted even abstaining as the imperialist bastards destroyed Libya in 2011

None of this is news. Mao (erroneously in my opinion) came to the conclusion they would have to hug tightly to the USA until they had far surpassed the USA and do it in such a way that the imperialists could not invade China like they wanted to in 1950 in the Korean war (the plan then was to strike up through Korea, into China then onto Soviet Union but they got bogged down in Korea).

The Chinese have then stepped back into essentially full capitalist relations to avoid war with USA and they have only avoided war with USA because of proletarian heros like Gordon Chang running a psyop on USA by telling them China will collapse every year since 1999 (and the US press believing it). They've done this strategically and pragmatically to bind the world economy to China, to avoid a capitalist coalition against it whilst also obtaining as much technology as possible to overtake them. Regardless of their previous awful foreign policy we are where we are and China is moving rapidly into US imperialisms cross hairs. They are becoming Anti-Imperialist by A) force of necessity now US has cross hairs on them and B) by undercutting Western imperialism with the Belt and Road initiative and loads to 3rd world at much better rates than IMF or World Bank as well as their debt forgiveness.

There is something so rat like when opportunists and distorters of Marxism (and the analysis on Imperialism) try to wrap their words in Marxist language due to the theoretical victory of Marxism

China’s complicity in these horrors teaches us that anti-capitalism is a class war, not a war between states, and that any attempt to confront imperialism—the great spawn of capitalism—by those same means is doomed to fail.

In the era of Class Society humans organise into States and class war inevitably becomes a war between States. Does this writer think some Venezuelan can survive and live without being murdered by (US funded) far right militia squads without the utilisation of the State to protect them? Does the writer think the Koreans in DPRK can disband their state and "focus on class war" to "confront imperialism" without organising themselves into a highly organised and disciplined State? When USA practices invading DPRK every year?

Any form of anti-imperialist politics that focuses on nations invariably arrives at pitting one of the faces of capitalism against another, which can only ever reproduce the very system it claims to fight. Only through a confrontation with the entire capitalist world system, no matter the color of its flag, can the nightmare of empire end.

Absolute trash and how does one fight the "entire capitalist system" without first settling accounts with your local bourgeoisie ie. your State

The proletariat of each country must, of course, first of all settle matters with its own bourgeoisie. (Marx, Communist Manifesto)

If humans outside the imperial core wish to survive and not have their populations turned over into a nightmare like The Congo or any number of African States that are completely subservient to international capital and thus have to have their children mining coltan under the threat of child soldiers they must organise into States and States therefore become the principle battleground of imperialism.

If someone here hadn't already pointed out that Lausan came out the fascist/far right Hong Kong protests I would've told you Lausan is CIA (which they are)

From Lausan.hk About Page

傘 (“san”) is the character for umbrella, referencing our ongoing critical engagement with Hong Kong’s social movements. 流傘 is also a homophone of 流散 (decentralized/diaspora), referencing our dispersal across the world. Lausan is a collective of writers, translators, artists, and organizers. We have no founders, only members. We are 100% independent and volunteer-run.

Tip for anyone here: any slipper revolution , any velvet revolution, orange revolution , sunflower revolution and indeed any umbrella revolution is not a revolution. It's the CIA

Anytime some "pro democracy" group tries to popularise an inanimate object as a symbol of 'revolution'.

It's CIA.

Lausan is CIA

https://amp.scmp.com/comment/opinion/article/3091438/us-has-been-exposed-funding-last-years-hong-kong-protests

Taiwan is not a country

Its not what they've historically called themselves and it's not what is on their passports. What is on their passport is the "Republic of China" and the ROC claims the entire mainland (the PRC) and parts of Mongolia/india/japan and Myanmar as their territory.

ROC is a illegitimate state that no one except a handful of pacific Islands recognise and were it not for the White supremacist USA existing the PRC would've rolled over ROC 7 decades ago and the civil war would've ended there

There is currently a hangmans noose around PRC and ROC has been at the forefront of this war against China. Acting in the interests of the international bourgeoisie and principally the USA by being an unsinkable aircraft carrier off the coast of China.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vAfeYMONj9E

The KMT fled to Taiwan massacred the natives (the people who did deserve the right of self determination) then used Taiwan as a base for sabotage, assassination and attempted reinvasion of China all helped by USA. Chiang Kai Shek was gearing up for an invasion as late as the 60s during Chinas famine

As this lib explains (from a lib "taiwan is a free country perspective") that once Taiwan falls it opens up the ocean for the Chinese navy and the ability for US to protect Japan/Korea comes into question and the US alliances will likely fall apart

But there’s more to this than nationalism and identity. Taiwan’s position in the so-called “first island chain” skirting China’s southeast makes it HIGHLY important from a strategic point of view. Controlling it could fatally undermine America’s current power in the region. “If Taiwan falls. If Taiwan were to be occupied by the Chinese military… Analyst Ian Easton wrote a book “The Chinese Invasion Threat” working through these strategic questions. “Then it becomes almost impossible to defend our entire network of treaty allies in the Asia-Pacific. How do we defend Japan from a blockade at that point, or how do we defend South Korea? How do we defend the Philippines? Because at any time they could be invaded from Taiwan if China is there.”

https://youtu.be/VkuNWDG3yNM?t=1107

ROC does not deserve the right of self determination and PRC must take back their territory from the descendants of fascists who then aligned against the majority of Chinese people for 7 decades with the USA. It's just icing on the cake that it destroys USAs entire network of treaty allies in the Asia-pacific :chefs-kiss:

Some accounts need to be settled and the National People’s Congress was completely correct to vote 2896 to zero on the " Republic of China" issue

The idea of self determination for Taiwan is as ridiculous as suggesting the British in Northern Ireland should have the right of self determination.

The term "whataboutism" was literally invented by the US to deflect from the very real human rights abuses and atrocities the US commits worldwide both at home and abroad

In particular when the Soviets presented the document We Charge Genocide to the United Nations written by black Americans

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Charge_Genocide

Giving it free reign to commit atrocities on a global scale, apartheid at home then whine about "whataboutism" anytime someone brings up their flagrant and numerous human rights abuses

The fact you would use "whataboutism" in a sentence unironically suggests youre still a shitlib

Edit: My bad :heart-sickle:

You don't need to be.

I've been trying to popularise this amongst the left (actual left not synthetic left ie. those that demand as the lowest bar for "being left" the absolute and complete destruction of Western imperialism and Western capitalism. Not the synthetic left labour aristocrats that try to "both sides" shit when it comes to Russia/China/Iran/INSERT_WESTS_ENEMY_IT_WANTS_BALKANISE_AND_DESTORY_FOR_NEW_MARKETS)

Is that we should all be learning from conservatives and particularly Roger Stone

Who's philosophy is Never defend, Attack, Attack, Attack

Some cuckold brings up the wildly discredited black book of communism "100 million dead under gommies" bring up the fact that British capitalism is responsible for 1.8 billion indian deaths alone so surely 100 million dead from every communist country in the 20th century is a million times better than 1 capitalist nation? If they change tact point out under the metrics of that defined "100 million dead" India achieves that every 20 years

Another cuckold brings up Xinjiang (a recent topic) point out that the US has starved 27 million Yeminis in a completely manmade famine which is over double the population of Xinjiang so why don't they shut their fucking mouth and focus on a problem they can at least pressure their government about.

They bring up the falsified "slaves picking cotton in Xinjiang" (an obviously emotionally charged call to USsians with US particular history) point out how come they have no problem with slave children farming chocolate in the Ivory Coast , the fact that Burmese slaves are pumped full of amphetamines and tied to the prows of boats and pulled apart if they disobey orders or how come they have no problem with the child slaves of the Congo mining coltan for their mobile phones and laptops?

Bring up the fact that only 2 years the US army was bombing the Uyghurs in the East Turkestan Islamic Movement which the US designated as terrorists up until this year

You can adjust your honesty, disingenuous, vitriol and disgust at liberals and conservatives with depending on how dishonest and disingenuous they're being but leftists should understand that even the "well meaning liberals" that at least pretend to be based in reality are in fact disingenuous, disgusting gaslighting pieces of shit and you should have no moral qualm about being as disingenuous, flexible with reality or gaslighting in return.

In for a penny out for a pound

These lib and conservative disgusting pieces of shit that now pretend to care about muslim lives in Xinjiang (definitely the human rights they care about and not the geopolitical rivalry opening up between West and China) remind them that they said nothing whilst the US sanctioned Iraq to the point half a million children died in Iraq and the US secretary of state went on TV to tell people "it was worth it" and that they have literally murdered millions of muslims since they began funding the head chopping jihadis in the 80s where Osama Bin Laden built up his networks in the Muhajadeen

You don't owe these people anything and you should start viewing how you interact with them as a game for your entertainment

There were obviously no free and fair elections in the USSR.

Guardian looking at gerry mandered maps, voting machines that have never, ever matched with exit polls, the fact Presidential candidacy is closed to non billionaires, voters purged off rolls, the captured state of the RNC and the DNC (who get to decide who can and cannot run), the role of the billionaire Murdoch press in elections, the fact Princeton and Harvard consider the US an oligarchy and finally the fact most senators are millionaires

Very free, very fair and democratic

:side-eye-1: :side-eye-2:

Ctrl + f'd for "cia" in that article

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Oh you Jacobin and your state-dept-socialism, never change

Succinct and under appreciated answer

Ironically, those protests are in international solidarity with the US BLM movement - not with the US black lives matter movement in international solidarity with Yemen/Libya/China/Nigeria or any other of the many nations under the yoke of US imperialism etc

Well done on proving my point

I've been dunked!

Anti civ types can fuck all the way off

Their entire outlook is based on an ahististorical and colonial view of the world and (absolutely unsurprisingly) due to their anti civilisation and doomer outlook they end up repeating ecofascist nonsense

The Comintern abandoned the term in the interwar period essentially to beg for alliances with the Social-Democrats and calling them "Social-Fascists" was completely antagonistic to Soviet foreign policy during that period

And what happened? Did the Social-Democrats force their governments to ally with the Soviets?

No, we saw Chamberlain collude with Hitler to try and turn the Nazi army east, we saw Daladier do the exact same.

France, under so-called "Socialist" Daladier, ratfucked Czechoslovakia by not activating the defence treaty that France and the Soviet Union had signed. (France and USSR signed a treaty with Czechoslovakia to come to her defence. However due to the anticommunism of the period the Czech President said that the Soviet Union could only defend Czechoslovakia if France came first to her defence. The reason he did this was because he suspected if only the Soviets came to his defence the capitalist pigs in France/UK would ally with the fascists and display this as "Communist aggression" and wage war on the Czechoslovakia and the Soviet Union.) Instead France allowed Czechoslovakia to be carved up because they thought they were playing 5d chess to get Hitler to go east into the Soviet Union.

Social democratic parties all over Europe collaborated with Hitler.

Take Hungary, Hungarys Succdem party was never even banned under Hitlerite occupation so instep with fascism they were

Let's not beat about the bush - It was correct Soviet foreign policy once the Nazis had risen in 1933 to stop calling SuccDems Social-Fascists but doesn't make it any less true

This is all ironic of course on a page where we are discussing a Social-Democrat that supports fascism "over there".

“Firstly, it is not true that fascism is only the fighting organisation of the bourgeoisie. Fascism is not only a military-technical category. Fascism is the bourgeoisie’s fighting organisation that relies on the active support of Social-Democracy. Social-Democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism. There is no ground for assuming that the fighting organisation of the bourgeoisie can achieve decisive successes in battles, or in governing the country, without the active support of Social-Democracy. There is just as little ground for thinking that Social-Democracy can achieve decisive successes in battles, or in governing the country, without the active support of the fighting organisation of the bourgeoisie. These organisations do not negate, but supplement each other. They are not antipodes, they are twins. Fascism is an informal political bloc of these two chief organisations; a bloc, which arose in the circumstances of the post-war crisis of imperialism, and which is intended for combating the proletarian revolution. The bourgeoisie cannot retain power without such a bloc. It would therefore be a mistake to think that “pacifism” signifies the liquidation of fascism. In the present situation, “pacifism” is the strengthening of fascism with its moderate, Social-Democratic wing pushed into the forefront.”

J. V. STALIN, from , “Concerning the International Situation,” 1924.

The masked opportunists, the Kautskyites, are much more harmful and dangerous to the labour movement, because they hide their advocacy of alliance with the former under a cloak of plausible, pseudo-"Marxist" catchwords and pacifist slogans.

Funny how the things you describe is how China decided to operate. Quite hilarious seeing Stalinists in other posts doing the mental contortions trying to reconcile their adherence to a strictly planned economy with their adulation for Dengist China. At least previous Stalinists were internally consistent and pivoted to Hoxhaism.

I largely describe myself as a Hoxhaist however any Socialist today that isn't rallying behind China and CPC isn't a socialist worth organising with given the state of class forces, the psyhopathic global hegemon and the absolute cult of the individual. I'm not sure if other shitlibs here realise but we are on the eve of Ww3 and China and Russia will be the targets.

Hm… I wonder who came before Khrushev who let them become nascent. His name escapes me, maybe you can help?

Absolutely. Stalin was too soft hearted in letting a previous Trotskyite come to power and handwaving his Trotskyism as something Kruschev had just flirted with in his youth. If Stalin hadn't been a shitlib maybe we would still have a Workers State

A later Soviet investigative commission found

Sent in by the Kruschevites and later those under Gorbachev lol.

Those 2 kept the Tukhachevsky transcripts confidential until 2000 when Colonel Alksnis was allowed to read them because he asked the Secret services and he was a Colonel in the Russian army (the transcript was released in full in 2018). Colonel Alksnis was a committed anti-Stalinist. HIs grandfather had been executed alongside Tukhachevsky for the same conspiracy. So why wouldn't he be an anti-Stalinist, his grandfather had been shot and his grandma spent 13 years in a gulag and exile? After reading the transcripts he came away convinced they were guilty.

Colonel Alksnis also points out the archives have been "cleaned" under each successive Leader.

For me, I.V. Stalin and his time is a very sore and relevant issue until now.

My grandfather – the commander of the second rank, deputy commissar of defense of the USSR for aviation Yakov Ivanovich (Jekabs Janovich) Alksnis, was shot in July 1938. His wife (my grandmother), Kristina Karlovna Mednis-Alksnis, as a member of the family of the traitor to the Motherland (CSIR), spent 13 years in camps and exiles. My father, Imant Yakovlevich, at the age of 10 was left without parents and until the age of 30 wore the stigma “son of an enemy of the people.” He found his mother only in 1957.

Judging by the materials of the case, the first interrogation took place only in January 1938. At the same time, judging by the 1956 rehabilitation materials filed in the same case, my grandfather was repeatedly summoned for interrogations and “beat out” evidence from him. But where are these protocols with “knocked out” testimonies, why were they not in the file?

After reviewing the transcript of the Tukhachevsky process, I realized that this process is also not so simple. My conviction that Tukhachevsky and his colleagues were simply forced to incriminate themselves under torture was seriously shaken, because judging by the transcript, they gave their testimonies quite sincerely. After reviewing the transcript of the process, I came to the conclusion that there was still a “military conspiracy”, or something like that, in the Red Army.

In 2000, I was elected a deputy of the State Duma, and I turned to the Director of the FSB, N. Patrushev, with a request to allow me to again familiarize myself with my grandfather’s criminal case. I was again invited to the Lubyanka, or rather, to the Kuznetsk bridge in the reading room of the FSB, and I was given a familiar criminal case.

I began to leaf through it, checking the records of 1990, and suddenly, to my amazement, I discovered that it lacked some important documents. For example, the NKVD intelligence report dated 1932 disappeared that the Latvian military attache stated in a private conversation with our agent that the Latvian General Staff has its own people among the military leaders of the Red Army. Among other surnames, the name of my grandfather was also mentioned there.

In 1990, I was very doubtful of this report, since it was unlikely that my grandfather could be an agent of the Latvian General Staff; according to the recollections of my grandmother, he was a stony-stone Bolshevik. But the very fact of the disappearance of this and some other documents allows me to conclude that the “cleaning” of archives continues to this day. The question arises: why?

So, in the archives there are documents that are not satisfied with the current government. The archives were “cleaned” under Stalin, under Khrushchev, under Gorbachev. “Cleaned” under Yeltsin.

Further the son of the traitor understood what had happened in Soviet society when the Soviet Union collapsed

My father was very upset by the collapse of the country. This is surprising, but in spite of the fact that as a result of the tragic events of the 30s his whole life was broken, I did not have to meet a greater patriot of our country. His country died, and six months later, on July 17, 1992, at the age of 65, he also died as a result of a heart attack.

A month before, he and I, at the dacha, at evening tea, once had a frank conversation about what was happening, and suddenly my father said: “If Stalin was alive, he would not have allowed this mess.”

I was shocked! My father, an ardent anti-Stalinist who hated Stalin with all the fibers of his soul, suddenly understood and forgave him …

https://diplomaticpost.co.uk/index.php/2020/07/15/the-moscow-trials-colonel-viktor-alksnis-read-the-tukhachevsky-transcript-and-came-away-convinced-he-was-guilty/

Stalin wrecked the military, stripped the party of it’s most dedicated members (

Stalin cleaned out the fifth column in the military who people like Tukhachevsky Trots told us for years were "dedicated leaders" instead of the fifth column traitors that they were. All over Europe countries fell at the slightest touch of the Nazi Army due to fifth column collaboration but in the Soviet Union we're expected to believe a lot of these generals and military leaders - only 20 years ago were probably White Guardists and monarchists fighting against the Bolsheviks alongside Germany and the other 13 capitalist nations - couldn't possibly have collaborated.

As to the "wrecking the army" comment- feel free to listen to Anti-Communist Stephen Kotkin say that historians have largely got the beginning of WW2 wrong on Stalin

(Paraphrasing) Our current understanding of ww2 history is wrong. What we currently think is the Soviets were a disaster at the beginning and the Soviets learned how to become good commanders. What we instead see now is that these tremendous losses at the beginning were precisely necessary as they blunted the German army and killed it's momentum. So what we currently believe is that Stalin was responsible for disasters at the beginning but what we now believe were necessary to kill the Germans momentum and grind them into a war of attrition

Stephen Kotkin - Stalin At War - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NV-hq2akCQ

We're not gonna hear about Stalins supposed failure on the eve of the war to move troops up to the front in order to be ready. He was urged to do so by his two top commanders - Zhukov and Timoshenko. That's because they were idiots. They didn't understand blitzkreig. Blitzkreig was not about capturing territory. It was about destroying the fighting capacity of your enemy. The more troops you move to the frontier the more troops will be destroyed and the less fighting capacity you have and the more likelihood you'll be defeated. So Stalins refusal to move more troops to the frontier zone was absolutely correct.

(Ibid)

You're not going to hear about Stalins "supposed failure" to prepare for the War. Nevermind the Soviet Union was armed to the teeth. Yes it had the worlds largest army. Yes it had the most aircraft and tanks. Essentially it had too much stuff because it had been building for war for a decade.

(Ibid)