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Done! Usually better about catching that

And how do you make this a protest chant? There has to be some concise expression to allow a more nuanced conversation to develop, and I struggle to find one better than saying you support the resistance

Real "Why can't defund the police actually say what they want instead of some crazy anarchy chant?" vibes you get from liberals. It's supposed to get people questioning and open conversation on the topic, not be a manifesto of exactly what is to be done

For real, instead of just side eyeing their friends and being like "wow such violent antisemitism, amirite?" they could have taken the opportunity to explain why 10/7 happened, the reality of the uprising, and why violent resistance can be effective. Out here posting L's

Idk, could be useful in opening a conversation about the realities of 10/7. There are numerous accounts of Israelis in tanks, helicopters, and on the ground indiscriminately killing anything that moves. By explicitly calling out these events and support for the resistance it allows people like OP or other organizers to explain to their lib friends where the majority of civilian deaths actually came from instead of only allowing MSM to tell them how to feel (that somehow Hamas had hellfire missiles/were roving gangs of rapists)

Yeah think I'm going to tap out of my second experience in this specific topic struggle sesh. It's so tiring seeing people who know better advocating pointless cruelty when they'll criticize libs and chuds for the exact same thought patterns

If you eat meat and this kind of story upsets you, please do some careful examination of why the industrial animal torture industries do not.

The Internet is text based, assigning a tone to what is typed is purely a personal problem to put it bluntly.

They are asking why industrial animal torture is not upsetting but killing a pet dog is. Why is someone who feels upset about the suffering of a dog not also upset about the suffering of a pig, cow, or chicken? If it's purely the label of pet, we get back to the comment you replied to

I'll be honest, I don't know if I've ever seen a post like that made in sincerity and it's not what I'm advocating for

I don't deny a subset of the population may have legitimate dietary constraints, but their existence doesn't excuse the vast majority who do not. I have seen those who do not use the existence of those people as a shield for their own spinelessness in refusing to cut meat from their diet for purely selfish reasons

And this is coming from an autistic person who cannot stand the texture of beans even today and would sit at the table for hours as a kid refusing to eat vegetables I did not like. If it's important enough, adjusting your diet is an accomplishable task. It's clear that some posters here do not feel the unnecessary suffering of animals is important enough for them to make a relatively simple lifestyle change and it's disturbing

I don't know what part of the thread I'm in at this point, but I've said elsewhere here that I agree this is more unhinged than average carnism defense. The underlying issue I'm trying to tease out here is the imposition of a human's will upon the life of an animal because the human wanted to do that and didn't care about the animal enough to make a different choice

The parent to this developing struggle session was not equivocating the two, it was asking why one made carnists feel a certain way and the mass torture of animals for food doesn't

I'm not nitpicking, but I did say at least attempt a vegetarian diet which would address the crux of the original comment regarding widespread animal torture which never explicitly even mentions veganism

It's not as though there is going to be some sweeping legislation to outlaw meat and kill meat eaters which is akin to examples you're making here wrt COVID or trans people. If 70% of the population made a conscious effort to stop eating meat that would be a tremendous benefit for their health, the welfare of animals, and the climate. And as a bonus, they'd save money doing it

No, the thing that is special about all of them is that they're living creatures that can experience pain and have desires to live in their natural environments

Your example isn't doing any favors here. It's honestly more concerning that all that matters to you is the label you assign to a being that gives its life worth. You're explicitly acknowledging anything could be a pet that is meaningful to someone but some just get the shit end of the stick and are killed after a lifetime of torture instead

This is pretty into the weeds, the vast majority of people could stand to at least attempt vegetarian diets rather than meat for every meal which is where the original commenter's point on "industrial torture industry" comes from

If everyone who is able to do so were doing so, the fraction of a fraction of the population who was unable to for whatever reason would not result in the torture factories present today

You're a regular poster and I know this is good faith, but it's using niche situations to cover for regular, widespread atrocities