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[–] tuga@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That one I'm not too knowledgeable enough about but I'm under the impression it makes a lot more sense to call for abolishing ICE as a real political goal than abolishing the family or the police

[–] tuga@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Doesn't shut up about some (any) slogan that starts with "abolish"

[–] tuga@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Much like the trump impeachment this will probably fail and just boost the president's ratings for a while

[–] tuga@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

If you really want proof, look at Meloni’s Italy.

Ok but my point is you don't look at JUST meloni to judge the willingness of the whole european far right to follow the US, Meloni and her party are fiercely atlanticist in a way that the 3 examples I mentioned aren't, a hint at their difference is if they are in the ID or the ECR group in the euro parliament, ID parties "tend" to be "softer" on, say, russia and china but not always, and if one of these parties actually were willing to, for example, pull the plug on ukraine support if it came to power I don't see why america wouldn't act to keep that party from power. They didn't need to do that with meloni because she's always been a vocal supporter of american strategy.

I'm just saying this to complicate things a bit, I don't think it's certain at all that these EU-US skeptical far right parties would actually follow through on it, it's sort of like asking whether trump would actually stop backing ukraine, can't say for certain

[–] tuga@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

They did in Portugal

[–] tuga@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Tbf I don't find this prospect unthinkable since some far-right parties in europe aren't quite as aligned with american strategy as others.

For example Le Pen (who is almost certainly winning in 2028), the german AfD and Orban have dissented, in different measures, to the establishment's position on ukraine and china. If a far-right party were to reach power in one of the big EU countries and they were expected to shift europe away from the US I don't see why the americans WOULDN'T interfere.

[–] tuga@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Real talk, this person is deeply disturbed, and they need to grow up

[–] tuga@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

Same as plenty of socialists I've seen lately, vote blue no matter who

Don't know why I didn't see it coming that everyone would fall in line to save democracy again

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