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[–] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 34 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Sad seeing people with their heart probably on the right place, choosing to forego the most important moment of their careers as a moral gesture towards people suffering; but being misguided to the point of calling the Palestinian genocide a war. Fucking state propaganda

[–] PointAndClique@hexbear.net 33 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Seeing as it's Han Kang's father paraphrasing his conversation with her, then the Korean article translated into English and the 'two wars' appearing to be an editorial parenthetical, I don't know if we can say for sure than Han Kang herself called the Palestinian genocide a war. I'll keep an eye out for an any statement from the author herself and update. That being said, that's how it's being (misre)presented.

[–] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, you're right that we're playing a game of "the broken phone" (idk if that's the name in English) with the author, her father and the writer of the article, the original meaning might have been lost at some point

[–] PointAndClique@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I wouldn't be surprised if the father introduced his own spin onto what he heard from his daughter, yes. I have enough respect for the author that I would imagine she'd rather take her time and give an official statement, and her father may have just pushed ahead and put words in her mouth. That thing kind of happens with parents...

Yes, telephone or broken telephone I think is a common name for it. Unfortunately where I grew up it used to be (and sometimes still is) called

cw sinophobia'Chinese whispers' because of the stereotype that a) Chinese people are gossipy, unreliable and deceitful and/or b) hard to understand because they don't understand English well


[–] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago

Well, at least "el teléfono escacharrado" (the broken phone) isn't sinophobic. Not that we don't have sinophobic idioms in Spanish, we have plenty sadly.

[–] jack@hexbear.net 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

misguided to the point of calling the Palestinian genocide a war

I gotta be honest, I never get this rhetorical insistence. The Palestinians and the resistance are waging a war of liberation. Wars have never needed to be evenly fought or without horrific crimes - I'd say war is almost definitionally the opposite of that. Genocides only ever happen in direct connection with or as part of a war.

[–] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The term "war" in my opinion places a kind of moral middle ground in which "both sides are bad and fighting each other". More accurate words like genocide, invasion, ethnic cleansing, mass displacement and murder, etc. better portray the situation. Saying "war between Hamas and Israel" is what western media uses to abuse bothsideism. After all, why wouldn't Israel have the right to bomb Gaza if they're at war with it? That's the mindset they're trying to instill. It's part of the whole "this conflict is too long and complicated, don't bother to understand it" rethoric used to keep progressives in line (conservatives don't have any problem with bombing Arabs).

[–] jack@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The term "war" in my opinion places a kind of moral middle ground in which "both sides are bad and fighting each other"

Who has ever used it this way? That's what I don't get. The Vietnamese fought a war to oust colonial powers and secure their socialist revolution. The sides were not equivalent morally or militarily, but that's never kept anyone from calling it a war. This position is such a weirdly rosy view of the word "war

More accurate words like genocide, invasion, ethnic cleansing, mass displacement and murder, etc. better portray the situation.

These are events happening within the war, and they are common features of war throughout history. I mean, invasion as contrary to war?

Saying "war between Hamas and Israel" is what western media uses to abuse bothsideism.

This I agree with because it misrepresents the nature of the war to support the colonial position. But the word "war" isn't the issue - it's the framing of the sides. The war is Israel vs Palestine. One side is right and one side is wrong. That's how most wars are.

[–] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Seeing how western media uses the word "war" for bothsideism, I'd rather stray from it, and call it a genocide, which is much more representative of the situation at hand, and much more unequivocally condemnatory of the actions of Israel.

One side is right and one side is wrong. That's how most wars are.

I'm sorry but I can't even remotely agree with that statement. Most wars have historically been power struggle between the elites of two distinct areas of influence, and so most wars have been illegitimate in that sense, with both sides being wrong. I don't think Sargon of Akkad waging war against neighboring regions made either side justified, I don't think WW1 had a good or bad side, I don't think most medieval wars that took place in Europe had a good or bad side. As such, I'd rather use other terms for conflicts that are morally one-sided. And again, I'm refusing the word "war" here because it's the frame that western media are trying to impose.

[–] EllenKelly@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The nobel prizes are also imperial propaganda, they probably come with a cash prize I guess but I dont feel great implying any writer worth their salt should strive to get a nobel prize

infact the second woman to win a nobel prize, Bertha von Suttner was literally Nobels secretary, a woman of some pedigree, who was brave enough to write some pacifist book in in the late 1890s

Suttner later introduced theodore herzel to the russian tsar, who convinced him to support the zionist movement because it would redirect the radical russian Jews, zionism has its roots in anticommunism wow! Kibbutz! Socialism!

sorry, this is kind of irrelevant, but I see people talk about nobel prizes a bit with some level of almost awe. I felt like i was losing it going down this rabbit hole the first time, i never got around to collecting my notes.

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago

Fun fact: this guy is the man with the most pull on who wins a nobel prize and if you scroll down to the controversy section you'll see that he had close personal ties to another guy we're all familiar with didnt-kill-himself