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I need a new car, and I really want to go full electric. I'm wondering if anyone regrets buying one? What are the downsides?

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[-] sbv@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 hours ago

Double your commute gives you a buffer for the heater, or the grocery run after work. For most people this is only 80 miles.... which almost every electric only car can do without issues.

Is the cost worth the vehicle?

This is where I get grumpy. I feel like that kind of range is a different category of vehicle, and it should be significantly cheaper than an ICEV, since it means I need to plan around the range.

I realize it's the size of the battery pack, so it isn't where most of the cost of the vehicle comes from, but still.

When it's time to replace my current vehicle, I'll probably go PHEV. But ideally public transit will be solved, so I won't need to. 🤣

[-] ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 hours ago

That kind of range is a different vehicle. My 500e I bought for 7k. It's the perfect commuter.

Do you really NEED to be able to drive 300 miles every day? If so, battery isn't likely for you. And if you don't need to, why cry that it can't?

[-] bluGill@fedia.io 8 points 10 hours ago

if you don't need to, why cry that it can't?

Because I need to drive 300 miles every few months and a car I own that can do that is cheaper than a car that can't and renting something that can for the few times I need it. Rental cars are expensive and most come with per mile charges on top of the daily rate.

[-] tyler@programming.dev 1 points 7 hours ago

It takes less than twenty minutes to charge enough to make that in any modern ev. Unless you’re filling up on gas before your trips anyway, you’re still gonna have to stop. The difference in time is negligible.

[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

Not even 20 minutes. If you are doing 300 miles, you probably only need to sit on the charger for maybe an extra 100 miles of charge. That is maybe 5-10 minutes.

Or if you get something like the Equinox EV, you may not have to charge during that trip at all.

[-] bluGill@fedia.io 3 points 5 hours ago

Gas cars fill even faster. Many EVs don't charge at high speeds, and not all chargers support high speeds even if the car can. Evs do have the advantage of being fully charged before you leave, so trips that can be done on one charge never need to stop. However longer trips have issues.

Don't forget that EV chargers are not nearly as common as gasoline. It is rare that someone needs to plan gas stops on a trip, when the gauge gets down to 1/4 you stop at the next town is the rule most people use (there is variation, those who use 1/8 as the rule sometimes run out of gas, some use 1/2). For EV trips you still have to plan your charging stops, particularly if you are getting off the well traveled path - you can still make most trips but you better how the chargers are working when you get there

[-] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Not only that, as EVS get more popular those stations will get more saturated. Even with more stations that means longer waits. Imagine a line for gas where it takes 5 total minutes to fill, if that. Now imagine that line with 20+ minute EV charging, per vehicle.

Im not against EVS but there are drawbacks. Acting like there aren't isn't doing Anyone any good.

Quite frankly I wish they'd just spend money on public transit.

[-] sbv@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 hours ago

My 500e I bought for 7k

A vehicle that can do a daily commute for 7k would be perfect. If you're talking about the Fiat 500e, it's 34k in my region. The cheapest used I can see is 22k.

Do you really NEED to be able to drive 300 miles every day? If so, battery isn't likely for you. And if you don't need to, why cry that it can't?

This comes across as hostile.

My complaint is price points. When I get reduced range, I feel like I should pay less. An EV with a range of 120km in the winter for 7k would be amazing. It'd be a decent deal up until 15k. After that, the apparent value drops off. Like I said in my post, a PHEV feels like better value.

[-] ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

Yup I agree for most people the phev is much more logical. Though the complexity comes with lessened reliability and more costly repairs.

I also agree that the low mile capable ev are a bit over priced. I bought the 500e with 20k miles. It has 65k now and I could probably sell it for the same 7k I bought it for.

[-] UsernameHere@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

If you buy a PHEV be prepared for the cost of a gas car and an EV combined

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