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Her dad is Jewish, mom isn't, and parents are divorced. The extent of her religion is "we said the prayers on hannukkah." Last night she heard about some right wingers she's barely related to say that Jewish people go to hell. This then led to my gf saying that "the left" also does the same thing.

Is this what the kids are calling "the ick"?

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[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 40 points 2 days ago (3 children)

If her mom isn't Jewish, then she's not considered Jewish by zionists. She doesn't owe them a thing and I assume she knows how this works, which means she's choosing to endorse genocide and trying to use any excuses she can find to run cover for it.

[–] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The non Zionist orthodox community I was raised in wouldn't consider them Jewish at all but actually Zionists and Israel would let them immigrate there with any parent being Jewish.

This person isn't Jewish according to Halakha though. It isn't a race, that is a European construction of Judaism; It is a religion meaning that if you do not believe in God and you do not do the 613 mitzvot, then you are not a follower of that religion. Hanukkah isn't even a holiday, it is a festival and is only considered important in America because it is near Christmas and American Jews didn't want their kids to feel left out. You can't be "half Christian" either, you either accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior or you are not Christian, if you do accept Jesus as your savior and God then you are definitely not Jewish; you are a regular Christian. If you do not believe in God, do not accept Jesus as your savior and you do not perform Mitzvot then you simply have no religion and that is fine too.

I do not really consider myself Jewish any more since I do not believe in God, do not perform Mitzvot or give a shit about any of it. I'm married to an Italian former Catholic.

Edit: I kind of threw out holiday and festival like this would make sense to anyone not raised with this stuff, Holidays are solemn days with religious requirements and festivals are "joyous celebrations" and not really a requirement to observe. Some festivals are also holidays like Sukkot.

and you do not do the 613 mitzvot, then you are not a follower of that religion

Apparently Mitzvot 18 is "Do not oppress the weak." so there we go, right off the bat, the existence of pissrael itself is heresy according to Judaism.

[–] sempersigh@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago

Zionists may say this but you still only need one Jewish parent to gain Israeli citizenship

[–] Cummunism@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago

If her mom isn't Jewish, then she's not considered Jewish by zionists.

this is pretty true, but also you don't need a jewish mother to go to Israel on "birthright."