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Her dad is Jewish, mom isn't, and parents are divorced. The extent of her religion is "we said the prayers on hannukkah." Last night she heard about some right wingers she's barely related to say that Jewish people go to hell. This then led to my gf saying that "the left" also does the same thing.

Is this what the kids are calling "the ick"?

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[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 54 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Jewish people don't even believe in hell, so what's her deal?

Make sure to tell her that loudly and repeatedly

Actually, don't do that, that would be pretty mean

[–] Babs@hexbear.net 46 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I didn't know "the left" was so concerned with the afterlife puzzled

[–] Crucible@hexbear.net 39 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The 'material' in 'dialectical materialism' is ectoplasm

[–] Babs@hexbear.net 27 points 5 months ago (3 children)

We doing inframaterialism now.

[–] lil_tank@hexbear.net 15 points 5 months ago

Gotta get that rizz steban

[–] urmums401k@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago

I could so go for some infra materialism rn.

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[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 40 points 5 months ago (3 children)

If her mom isn't Jewish, then she's not considered Jewish by zionists. She doesn't owe them a thing and I assume she knows how this works, which means she's choosing to endorse genocide and trying to use any excuses she can find to run cover for it.

[–] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The non Zionist orthodox community I was raised in wouldn't consider them Jewish at all but actually Zionists and Israel would let them immigrate there with any parent being Jewish.

This person isn't Jewish according to Halakha though. It isn't a race, that is a European construction of Judaism; It is a religion meaning that if you do not believe in God and you do not do the 613 mitzvot, then you are not a follower of that religion. Hanukkah isn't even a holiday, it is a festival and is only considered important in America because it is near Christmas and American Jews didn't want their kids to feel left out. You can't be "half Christian" either, you either accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior or you are not Christian, if you do accept Jesus as your savior and God then you are definitely not Jewish; you are a regular Christian. If you do not believe in God, do not accept Jesus as your savior and you do not perform Mitzvot then you simply have no religion and that is fine too.

I do not really consider myself Jewish any more since I do not believe in God, do not perform Mitzvot or give a shit about any of it. I'm married to an Italian former Catholic.

Edit: I kind of threw out holiday and festival like this would make sense to anyone not raised with this stuff, Holidays are solemn days with religious requirements and festivals are "joyous celebrations" and not really a requirement to observe. Some festivals are also holidays like Sukkot.

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago

and you do not do the 613 mitzvot, then you are not a follower of that religion

Apparently Mitzvot 18 is "Do not oppress the weak." so there we go, right off the bat, the existence of pissrael itself is heresy according to Judaism.

[–] sempersigh@hexbear.net 12 points 5 months ago

Zionists may say this but you still only need one Jewish parent to gain Israeli citizenship

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[–] MouthyHooker@hexbear.net 36 points 5 months ago

Sorry you are going through this. I finally swore off dating libs over a year ago and it was a very good choice for me. Leftists can also be pieces of shit but at least they tend to share my values. I get why you wouldn’t be ready to end the relationship given the length and level of investment, but I hope you can have a serious conversation with her about how much her views bother you.

[–] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 27 points 5 months ago (1 children)

so shes saying or implying that she thinks that you think she's going to hell too? I think people who don't understand the situation and are confused about power tend to react this way

[–] darkmode@hexbear.net 24 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

does she know your stance on this issue?

I am really sorry about this. I failed to navigate this with a much, much shorter relationship. If you're really in love, I would recommend against choosing to be staunchly more based than her. No one resents anything more than someone telling them they are constantly wrong about anything and fact of the matter is that your specific relationship and her opinions will not affect the genocide. Remember, few people hold true conviction. Most are just vibing.

[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Only libs go to hell, chuds go to Valhalla (Cheesecake Factory). As for leftists, we go to the great struggle session in the sky.

[–] Des@hexbear.net 18 points 5 months ago

deep-nesting deep-nesting angel-biblical deep-nesting deep-nesting be not afraid (of the struggle session)

[–] JayTreeman@hexbear.net 23 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I've got a similar situation. I've heard a couple of times 'its a complicated situation' WHAT'S COMPLICATED ABOUT STANDING AGAINST GENOCIDE???? I'm a little butt hurt about it

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

To people completely unfamiliar it can seem that way from media framing. You know nothing about the Middle East, let alone your own politics, and then there’s this big debate about two sides with one you know more about because because the media you’re exposed to pushes them more.

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago

let alone your own politics

I hadn't thought about it in a long time how established I am in my politics. There's a lot I could stand to be more educated on, but I pretty much have the fundamentals down cause I don't want to be beholden to a system whose only purpose is to make sure 17 or so people are wealthy beyond measure.

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[–] urmums401k@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Well, see, its complicated because god damn commies hate fun, because you're all raging antisemites; proven by you thinking literally a single Palestinian person on earth should live to the age of 20. But I still wanna exterminate the brutes, because I, a lib, like fun.

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 22 points 5 months ago

And I guess it's just the commie in you
That brings out the lib in me
I know I can't help myself
You're all in the world to me

It feels like the first time
etc.

[–] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Fishroot@hexbear.net 21 points 5 months ago

Most people who support israel have no attachment to the land and probably will never live there in long term. They are chickenhawk nationalists

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 18 points 5 months ago

You're a lib 'arry!

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago

I'm more of a "dump them and head off to write the next great song: 'Alone With My Principals'" type of guy.

at this point it's a 29 minute long opus.

[–] TheBroodian@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago

Yes this sounds very much like 'the ick'

[–] Mokey2@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago