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I mean in America but also possibly worldwide with all the bullshit lately

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If you're talking about yesterday's events being the start? I don't believe so. Very few people in the US have so little to lose and still a lack of collectivism that they would not be willing to give up their life for a chance to improve things for everyone.

HOWEVER, this event may open people's eyes to look at each other and realize culture wars are a distraction, the wealthy are the ones after our ability to sustain ourselves, not immigrants, trans people, rural people, urban people, or religious people, conservative or liberal etc.

Violence is an option, but it doesn't have to be this way. We saw it got Anthem to reverse course, but I'm certain the same thing would happen if everyone switched away from Anthem at the same time during this open enrollment period.

If this doesn't spur the beginning of a mindset towards collective action, we will be left waiting until the next high-profile murder. Again the solution doesn't have to be violent with guillotines and the whole 9 yards, but organize organize organize into a movement and change can happen when y'all put aside differences and do it together. Modern society going so fast has made everyone perpetually tired and makes it hard to wield their share of power. Still there is immense power in numbers and it is up to us to use it for good. An unbreakable bond between people can't be defeated no matter what the billionaire class may spend to try to discredit it.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'm certain the same thing would happen if everyone switched away from Anthem at the same time during this open enrollment period.

Respectfully, how many people even have that option? I have a choice between two plans at one company. My wife has two or three more options through her job, also through the same company. We can't even get ACA because we have insurance offered through work.

The only way for us to leave our insurance company is to change jobs or just go without insurance (which you don't get any extra money for to offset the cost).

The system is set up in such a way that we can't make meaningful collective choices. I'm not condoning murder, but they've deliberately left us with few opportunities to vote with our wallets. It's little wonder someone got creative about messaging.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

The system is set up in such a way that we can't make meaningful collective choices

It's also set up to make it incredibly difficult to be self-employed. Tying lifesaving medical procedures to corporate servitude ensures that the vast majority of people have no choice but to go work for the wealthy.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Lone wolfs are lone.

Unorganized chaos v a movement with leadership easily targeted.

People with nothing left to lose are not just those the public has normally ostracized. They include very intelligent, very motivated people.

It only takes one person to act.

Revolution often doesn't involve the moderate or uninformed.

When the power elite have no idea from where or when they might be deposed, that could be a much more powerful tool than an uprising easily suppressed by jack boots and tear gas.