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KEY POINTS

  • Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, whom President-elect Donald Trump appointed to lead a new government efficiency team, said they intend to call federal employees back to the office five days a week.
  • Companies such as Amazon and The Washington Post are adopting a similar policy in 2025.
  • But many companies will keep remote or hybrid work arrangements, largely because they boost profits, economists said.
  • Some view return-to-office mandates as a stealthy way to reduce employee head count.
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[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 76 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

stupid control freaks. Because controlling of their employees is what RTO is about, control and paranoia.

They are stupid paranoid control freaks who fear that their neat buildings stand empty and they cant just throw work at their wage slaves. So this is actually about control, paranoia, and vanity.

[–] hondaguy97386@sh.itjust.works 62 points 4 days ago (3 children)

The stupid thing is I actively do less work in the office.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 21 points 4 days ago

I actively do less work in the office.

This is known. It's been proven; for introverts and/or ADHD especially, since the interaction is stressful and/or completely disturbing. The difference is stark.

But, for extroverts, the office can be where they thrive, and it's the environment that lures them in. So unless they adapt (what? Them? But adapting is for the introverts who run the shit) quickly, they're gonna be fish outta water in short order.

There's absolutely no automatic tangible benefit to RTO for those jobs that are remote capable (ie anything at a desk with no customer interface). Only a subset works marginally better with people to disturb, and I'll question even that number or the benefit. The only reason they want you back in is this lie about being unable to manage your ass unless they can see your ass -- which is the creepiest way to cover for "sunk cost fallacy" for the space lease.

But yeah, keep some space for extroverts who can't cope. It's us being the better people about it.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago

Almost all desk work should be ad hoc.

Get your shit done. Then do what ever until there's more work to do.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Many people do for the sole reason that you're more productive when you're comfortable and you're probably going to be more comfortable at home.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

pretty much every office I've had to work in was either too cold or too hot. Hoodies in the summer and t-shirts in the winter. I don't have that problem at home.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Most mixed gender offices will have that issue. But also among the same gender one person is comfy at 19°C and another needs 23°C to not be cold.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 2 points 3 days ago

One of the offices I worked in the HVAC was bizarre. The thermostat was by sales, but the cold air came out of a vent by eng on the other side of the building. Sales was hot, so they'd set a lower temperature. Eng would then get blasted by cold air, and sales would still be hot.

"Nothing to be done about it. Wear a hoodie" said management. Fuck that.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago (3 children)

That and they don't understand how to manage people remotely.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 31 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

One of the benefits of working from home has been that my manager can no longer use standing staring at me as his main means of judging whether I'm doing work. The whole business of needing to see people working just smacks of shitty management.

[–] Prox@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That and they don't understand how to manage people ~~remotely~~.

FTFY

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

Largely also true. In my office, my manager is remote anyway, so it doesn't matter if I'm in my local office or home office.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So their reasons is control, paranoia, vanity, incompetence when it comes to remote management and their undivided devotion to the American Dollar.

^something^ ^something^ ^spanish^ ^inquisition^

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Man, I don't even get a comfy chair!

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago

My new Aeron arrived two weeks ago. It replaced my 18 year old .... Aeron. It has served me well, and needs just 200 in repairs (new pads, new struts, cylinder) so I may give it to my cousin.

Yeah. Comfy chair, cool lifty desk, sweet river view, floofy cats. I dearly hope we can keep WFBest in our next union contract too.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Now wait a minute, I saw your review!

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

WORK chair. :)

[–] pezhore@infosec.pub 8 points 4 days ago

Don't forget sweetheart tax breaks from local municipalities on real estate!

Sure you can have this huge complex company, because we know the 1500 people who work from the office will frequent the local Subway for lunch and that's sales tax!