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I dunno what feed you mean because most westerners think China is an authoritarian dictatorship. There are a lot of people that won't touch anything owned by Tencent simply because it's Chinese. Youtube is flooded by social credit score and Winnie the Pooh Xi jokes. Outside of the internet the mainstream News is constantly harping on the "China Threat" and how it's a threat to democracy. Those are just a handful of examples off the top of my head but even small stuff like all through my working life I've had co-workers used communism and Chinese as shorthand for bad. "Made in China" for example is shorthand for "badly made" when Westerners say it.
I wrote a long, detailed dismantling of a the sundae cherry comment "the US sometimes behaves badly but isn't genocidal like China" atop a lot of barely-disguised sinophobic posting on a [redacted professional industry I work in sometimes] news site the other day. In part because that particular comment was so blatently an inversion of reality and partly because I'd had enough of how pervasive and unchallenged it was.
The flood of Chinese treats banned from the US being seen might unironically be the radicalisation trigger for the US.
We've had Treaterites but are you ready for Treatist-Leninists?
Cultural Marxist = ❌️
Treatist Leninist = ✅️
If there was Treatist-Trotskyism they could tape a lollipop to the their newspapers like British kids comics did in the 90s.
The dialectic really is ever in motion
I didn’t join tik tok for two reasons:
1 addictiveness
2 China has a more robust surveillance system than the US does and are further along in facial recognition tech. I don’t want them getting a scan of my face. It’s bad enough the US likely has one because of my drivers license, but our tech hasn’t caught up to chinas yet. Or at least the implementation of it. I fully expect the worst of Chinas social credit stuff to be implemented in America as well as America importing Israel’s surveillance tech that they’ve mastered in their genocide of Palestinians. Im off the major social networks now but im deeply uneasy about where the world is heading. I don’t want anyone to have my data anymore whether it’s a Chinese based or US based or any other country based company. The data will one day be used against me.
A lot of the perception of ‘social credit’ is very muddied and unspecific. If I’m being completely honest, I see it as a relative nonissue for China to have a scan of my face (which really is available to anyone and anything so long as there exists even a single picture of you online)
Like, exactly what is China going to do with it? For those who live in America, the American Gov’t will be the ones attempting to surveil and control you. China doesn’t exactly pose a threat to me as a person lol.
“I’ve done nothing wrong I’ve got nothing to hide”
I don’t want any country having a scan of my face. I’m livid they likely have my drivers license but at least that’s just one static image and not endless photos and videos. I just don’t want that level of data out there about me with the rise of AI and the eventual introduction of social credit in the US. And who knows what the future brings
there's difference in actually scanning your face and scanning faces of people appeared in a video available to public (let's be real here, they are all already scanned by all the AI companies in the US too). There's some controversial discord age verification bot through 3rd party service thing and roblox age verification that actually requires you to scan your face, that's ones that I will never submit my photo to. As long as these chinese apps do not require you to do the same, I don't see any problem with that.