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Seriously who could have guessed? Sure it might not amount to much but even the fact that people are learning that what the US has been teaching it's people about China has been mostly lies is amazing.

There is no way in hell this could have ever happened even when I was a kid. People were simply too racist. They still are, but the fact that even the slight reduction in racism we have in modern day is enough that Chinese people and Westerners are coming together and being cool with each other online is nothing short of a miracle.

No wonder the US hegemony hates teaching it's people foreign languages, no wonder it encourages xenophobia, that barrier was so powerful in keeping people from learning first hand what Americas "enemies" are really like.

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[–] kaprap@leminal.space 20 points 19 hours ago (7 children)

Did people think Chinese people were ever evil? Videos of china on my feed are always positive

[–] SmokinStalin@hexbear.net 8 points 7 hours ago

Are you in the US?

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 28 points 15 hours ago

on my feed

You're probably a decent person and the algorithm put you in a bubble.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 32 points 16 hours ago

I asked on my group chat if people were thinking of switching over to xiaohongshu and received a response "why, so a Chinese steals my social security number?"

I think we still have a long way to go with this whole racism thing.

[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 42 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

You're very fortunate. Sinophobia is 'baked into the cake' citations-needed as it were where I live. Chinese people are depicted as childlike, unscrupulous and brainwashed all at once as though they are 'programmed' by the CCP (CPC) to be spies for the country or rabid nationalists while still being shielded from the rest of the world behind the Great Firewall. Any basic normal day-to-day stuff, if done by a Chinese person, is instantly suspicious. Posting cute panda videos? It's an insidious SoFt PoWeR pUsh. Buying infant formula? It's China flexing its economic might to deprive western babies of nutrition. Highly coordinated dance? It's brutal training to quash individualism (unless ofc its shenyun in which case it's 4000 years of esoteric tradition and majesty...). Chinese people cannot exist or act in the west without being seen through the lense of the yellow peril.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 54 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (3 children)

I dunno what feed you mean because most westerners think China is an authoritarian dictatorship. There are a lot of people that won't touch anything owned by Tencent simply because it's Chinese. Youtube is flooded by social credit score and Winnie the Pooh Xi jokes. Outside of the internet the mainstream News is constantly harping on the "China Threat" and how it's a threat to democracy. Those are just a handful of examples off the top of my head but even small stuff like all through my working life I've had co-workers used communism and Chinese as shorthand for bad. "Made in China" for example is shorthand for "badly made" when Westerners say it.

[–] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 5 points 6 hours ago

I wrote a long, detailed dismantling of a the sundae cherry comment "the US sometimes behaves badly but isn't genocidal like China" atop a lot of barely-disguised sinophobic posting on a [redacted professional industry I work in sometimes] news site the other day. In part because that particular comment was so blatently an inversion of reality and partly because I'd had enough of how pervasive and unchallenged it was.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I didn’t join tik tok for two reasons:

1 addictiveness

2 China has a more robust surveillance system than the US does and are further along in facial recognition tech. I don’t want them getting a scan of my face. It’s bad enough the US likely has one because of my drivers license, but our tech hasn’t caught up to chinas yet. Or at least the implementation of it. I fully expect the worst of Chinas social credit stuff to be implemented in America as well as America importing Israel’s surveillance tech that they’ve mastered in their genocide of Palestinians. Im off the major social networks now but im deeply uneasy about where the world is heading. I don’t want anyone to have my data anymore whether it’s a Chinese based or US based or any other country based company. The data will one day be used against me.

[–] CharlieTheOctopus@hexbear.net 4 points 2 hours ago

A lot of the perception of ‘social credit’ is very muddied and unspecific. If I’m being completely honest, I see it as a relative nonissue for China to have a scan of my face (which really is available to anyone and anything so long as there exists even a single picture of you online)

Like, exactly what is China going to do with it? For those who live in America, the American Gov’t will be the ones attempting to surveil and control you. China doesn’t exactly pose a threat to me as a person lol.

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 42 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

The flood of Chinese treats banned from the US being seen might unironically be the radicalisation trigger for the US.

We've had Treaterites but are you ready for Treatist-Leninists?

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 30 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Treatist-Leninists?

Cultural Marxist = ❌️

Treatist Leninist = ✅️

[–] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 6 points 6 hours ago

If there was Treatist-Trotskyism they could tape a lollipop to the their newspapers like British kids comics did in the 90s.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 20 points 16 hours ago

The dialectic really is ever in motion cereal1

[–] nandos_house_of_glues@hexbear.net 35 points 19 hours ago

considering "it's chinese" is liberal for "it's bad", yeah I would say so

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 22 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

They think of them as scheming hordes incapable of independent thought or creativity.

[–] jack@hexbear.net 12 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I think most Americans barely think of them at all

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 12 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Idk have you seen the Lemmy.world news feed. There's at least one article on the Chinese threat per day.

[–] jack@hexbear.net 4 points 5 hours ago

lemmy.world is not exactly representative of your average US American - it's a bunch of post-reddit dweebs obsessed with an extremely narrow understanding of politics as posting

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago

Lemmy.world is full of extremely bad liberal takes and they get their panties in a twist if you call out the democrats bullshit re their so called “progressive” policies that are half baked and never implemented because they’re a spineless and ineffectual party who only cares about protecting the desires of their corporate donors.

[–] Hermes@hexbear.net 8 points 14 hours ago

lemmy.world is hitlerites, while the average Amerikkkan is a treatlerite.