this post was submitted on 15 Jan 2025
137 points (97.9% liked)
chat
8259 readers
262 users here now
Chat is a text only community for casual conversation, please keep shitposting to the absolute minimum. This is intended to be a separate space from c/chapotraphouse or the daily megathread. Chat does this by being a long-form community where topics will remain from day to day unlike the megathread, and it is distinct from c/chapotraphouse in that we ask you to engage in this community in a genuine way. Please keep shitposting, bits, and irony to a minimum.
As with all communities posts need to abide by the code of conduct, additionally moderators will remove any posts or comments deemed to be inappropriate.
Thank you and happy chatting!
founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Did people think Chinese people were ever evil? Videos of china on my feed are always positive
Are you in the US?
You're probably a decent person and the algorithm put you in a bubble.
I asked on my group chat if people were thinking of switching over to xiaohongshu and received a response "why, so a Chinese steals my social security number?"
I think we still have a long way to go with this whole racism thing.
You're very fortunate. Sinophobia is 'baked into the cake' as it were where I live. Chinese people are depicted as childlike, unscrupulous and brainwashed all at once as though they are 'programmed' by the CCP (CPC) to be spies for the country or rabid nationalists while still being shielded from the rest of the world behind the Great Firewall. Any basic normal day-to-day stuff, if done by a Chinese person, is instantly suspicious. Posting cute panda videos? It's an insidious SoFt PoWeR pUsh. Buying infant formula? It's China flexing its economic might to deprive western babies of nutrition. Highly coordinated dance? It's brutal training to quash individualism (unless ofc its shenyun in which case it's 4000 years of esoteric tradition and majesty...). Chinese people cannot exist or act in the west without being seen through the lense of the yellow peril.
I dunno what feed you mean because most westerners think China is an authoritarian dictatorship. There are a lot of people that won't touch anything owned by Tencent simply because it's Chinese. Youtube is flooded by social credit score and Winnie the Pooh Xi jokes. Outside of the internet the mainstream News is constantly harping on the "China Threat" and how it's a threat to democracy. Those are just a handful of examples off the top of my head but even small stuff like all through my working life I've had co-workers used communism and Chinese as shorthand for bad. "Made in China" for example is shorthand for "badly made" when Westerners say it.
I wrote a long, detailed dismantling of a the sundae cherry comment "the US sometimes behaves badly but isn't genocidal like China" atop a lot of barely-disguised sinophobic posting on a [redacted professional industry I work in sometimes] news site the other day. In part because that particular comment was so blatently an inversion of reality and partly because I'd had enough of how pervasive and unchallenged it was.
I didn’t join tik tok for two reasons:
1 addictiveness
2 China has a more robust surveillance system than the US does and are further along in facial recognition tech. I don’t want them getting a scan of my face. It’s bad enough the US likely has one because of my drivers license, but our tech hasn’t caught up to chinas yet. Or at least the implementation of it. I fully expect the worst of Chinas social credit stuff to be implemented in America as well as America importing Israel’s surveillance tech that they’ve mastered in their genocide of Palestinians. Im off the major social networks now but im deeply uneasy about where the world is heading. I don’t want anyone to have my data anymore whether it’s a Chinese based or US based or any other country based company. The data will one day be used against me.
A lot of the perception of ‘social credit’ is very muddied and unspecific. If I’m being completely honest, I see it as a relative nonissue for China to have a scan of my face (which really is available to anyone and anything so long as there exists even a single picture of you online)
Like, exactly what is China going to do with it? For those who live in America, the American Gov’t will be the ones attempting to surveil and control you. China doesn’t exactly pose a threat to me as a person lol.
The flood of Chinese treats banned from the US being seen might unironically be the radicalisation trigger for the US.
We've had Treaterites but are you ready for Treatist-Leninists?
Cultural Marxist = ❌️
Treatist Leninist = ✅️
If there was Treatist-Trotskyism they could tape a lollipop to the their newspapers like British kids comics did in the 90s.
The dialectic really is ever in motion
considering "it's chinese" is liberal for "it's bad", yeah I would say so
They think of them as scheming hordes incapable of independent thought or creativity.
I think most Americans barely think of them at all
Idk have you seen the Lemmy.world news feed. There's at least one article on the Chinese threat per day.
lemmy.world is not exactly representative of your average US American - it's a bunch of post-reddit dweebs obsessed with an extremely narrow understanding of politics as posting
Lemmy.world is full of extremely bad liberal takes and they get their panties in a twist if you call out the democrats bullshit re their so called “progressive” policies that are half baked and never implemented because they’re a spineless and ineffectual party who only cares about protecting the desires of their corporate donors.
lemmy.world is hitlerites, while the average Amerikkkan is a treatlerite.