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Remember when libertarians used to say it’s “crony capitalism” or it’s “corporatism”?
an actual (paraphrased) conversation i had with a childhood family friend who always tells you to “google voluntaryism” but is a literal fascist
“so corporatism is when corporations control the government, and that’s bad?”
“yes”
“so we should regulate corporations so they can’t influence the government?”
“no, that would be socialism. we need to completely deregulate corporations”
“it wouldn’t be, but okay. so capitalists control the corporations, who control the government. and that’s bad to you since its corporatism. so you’re saying deregulating those corporations will solve the problems in government that not enough corporate regulation has caused?”
“no”
“no?”
“they’re not capitalists, they’re socialists”
some motherfuckers are so beyond stupid that it’s actually incomprehensible
and on a personal level, this dude’s dad was a cop who was kicked off the force for being too racist for ashworth tennessee in the late 1990s. when his drunk racist dad’s abuse became too much for him to handle, my family let him live with us completely for free
in 2016 when trump was suggesting armed ICE agents at the border should shoot anyone crossing, this supposed “small government voluntaryist” was all in for it. i reminded him my dad, who is iranian got into america illegally through Mexico and asked him if that changed his perspective knowing people like my dad who helped him are the ones coming here. he said “i love your dad like a father but i would still support armed ice agents with authority to kill on sight”
It's great when you can throw back what an illusion property is to them. Can't do whatever psychopathic thing you want with your property? Then it's not really property. But you can't violate the NAP right? Who's property enforces that?
-these mfers
the weirdest people in the world took it to heart when deng said that markets existed before capitalism and can still be used in socialist transition
They still do. And not just them, I see libs doing it all the time on