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I keep getting Xiaohongshu posts on my feed of American users apologizing for “colonizing” the app and declaring their intent to leave. It’s usually full of Chinese users insisting that it’s not the case. My gut reaction is that it doesn’t make sense and I’ll explain why in the comments.

But it’s possible that I’m just missing something or that as an English speaker my feed inherently skews foreigners-friendly. So I wanted to ask. Why do US users think they’re colonizing Xiaohongshu? Are Chinese users genuinely insistent that they’re not? And who is correct?

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[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 57 points 2 days ago (5 children)

No.

Just like how bourgeois-backed liberal economics sees capitalism as anything to do with money, settler-colonial-origin people see settler-colonialism as anything to do with migration, as to somewhat justify their particular mode of life, by backdating it back to their pre-origin past as something natural.

For sure, it's one part, but it isn't the only thing that defines them both.

This is just blunt vulgarization by cultural liberal hegemony.

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

These liberals aren't used to not having their white privilege. It's not possible to "colonize" xhs or whatever. If the Chinese people (app management or government or whatever) felt some kind of way about it they could easily lock out all foreign users and move on. That's not colonization if you can get kicked out with like 10 minutes of effort.

Yeah, settler-colonization presupposes a material base of strength, from a burgeoning capitalism, to displace, ~~(ethnically cleanse)~~, and take over land of indigenous people for petty-proprietorship.

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 31 points 2 days ago

good post.

unrelated, but my older sibling dismisses personal financial literacy--they make good money (better than me) don't know how to budget, open a checking account, and have never done their taxes... they make my elderly parents do theirs--as "capitalism". I make less than them and live over a thousand miles away and run a tight ship so I can be independent. we are both in our 40s.

their kid is becoming a teenager and my sibling laments that their kid has no idea how anything works... what is expensive/unreasonable pricing, wants restaurant food all the time and treats and games. when I mentioned the idea they could have an allowance like we had growing up for doing household chores. my sibling dismisses that as "capitalism" and that they want them to contribute to the household spontaneously for the common good.

I pointed out that they live in a mansion in a gated community with our elderly, loaded parents and benefit from twice weekly maid service. "your 'household' already has servants getting paid. you can't build Camelot on top of that." they scowled at me.

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Thanks this is really helpful!!

With {western} settler-colonialism as the base of the economy, its superstructure is white supremacy, as its self-justifying aggrandizing perspective.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Also it's not like they could somehow take it over there's like 1.7 billion people in China, good luck causing any meaningful cultural shift on their own social media. I think if anything the influence will flow the other direction.

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago

Great comment!!