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Imagine there's a Western backed genocide happening, possible WW3 around the corner, and fascism is coming to power everywhere. And you made video after video about why MLs are bad.

I shouldn't care, but I used to really like BadMouse.

Also imagine being English and making an hour long video attacking an Iraqi communist.

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[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 23 points 3 days ago (3 children)

There's also the point that the vast majority of land the Soviet Union "occupied" was land that Poland took after the Polish–Soviet War when Poland invaded the Soviet Union, so if anything, it was the Soviet Union freeing western Ukraine from Polish occupation.

Ask them if Lvov/Lviv/Lwow is a Polish city or a Ukrainian city. The only non-fascist/non-anticommunist reason to object to the non-aggression pact is if they're a Polish revanchist who thinks western Ukraine should be part of Poland. But I suspect the vast majority of Western libs will simultaneously object to the pact but still think that Lviv is a Ukrainian city. How a major city under Polish administration is supposed to somehow transfer over to Ukrainian/Soviet administration is anyone's guess.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago

Yeah but if you mention this on reddit you get revanchist weirdos show up and create a 30 comments response chain argument point after point. I prefer to leave it out because it just completely prevents their participation in the conversation. If they want to argue, they have to argue about stronger shit that they can't bog down in walls of text nobody wants to read.

Redditors absorb the short sharp arguments better. When stuff devolves into loooooong replyguy comment chains they stop absorbing the information.

[–] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

There's also the point that the vast majority of land the Soviet Union "occupied" was land that Poland took after the Polish–Soviet War

Not a really powerful argument knowing that the USSR invaded Baltic countries and Finland too. Not that I think that's bad, ridding those countries of their capitalist governments is something that had to be done, as well as putting some land between the Nazis and the Soviets in the upcoming war (libs try to understand the implication of the Great European Plain in soviet policy in WW2 challenge level: impossible).

To me, the more powerful argument is that all of those countries were too weak to fight the Nazis, so the alternatives to soviet occupation were either collaboration with Nazis or Nazi invasion. I still haven't gotten a meaningful reply to that, other than "Nazis took our lives but Ruzzians took our souls" russophobia nazi-adjacent bullshit.

[–] newacctidk@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago

The difference is said Baltic countries and Finland did not occupy land recently annexed from other nations. I think the point about the Polish territory being occupied is actually really useful because it appeals to the kneejerk sensibilities that make libs defend Ukraine. It can make them question themselves, at least more than not bringing it up.

There is something particularly satisfying about asking "so Vilnius not being part of Poland currently is evil?". The mere fact that Lithuania's modern capital today was under Polish occupation is a stark point to make.

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

Self-proclaimed Ukrainian sovereignty respecters justifying the Polish annexation of Western Ukraine: morshupls