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[–] obbeel 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Muitas coisas são de livre acesso à informação por princípio, e não por serem "lixo", como descreve o artigo. Pra isso que recebem fundos do governo ou de outras partes interessadas.

Um monte de dinheiro jogado em uma grande máquina de propaganda (como o artigo citou o New York Times) não faz com que seja menos propaganda só porque além de todo o dinheiro que recebe quer o meu também.

Às vezes, 5 pessoas numa garagem fazem melhor do que 1000 em um grande veículo.

Indo mais longe, acho que o mesmo pode ser dito de algumas universidades estadunidenses.

[–] r2castro 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Acho que faltou ler o resto do artigo, ele mesmo critica pra caramba o NYT depois, e o aponta principalmente pra contradição sobre a construção de informação, conhecimento e cultura como "propriedade" a ser protegida de réplica e redistribuição. E apesar de 5 pessoas poderem fazer um ótimo trabalho, a estrutura de publicação na internet no capitalismo é inerentemente contra a propagação em massa desse trabalho.

Trecho sobre o NYT:

Now, crucially, I do not mean to imply here that reading the New York Times gives you a sound grasp of reality. I have documented many times how the Times misleads people, for instance by repeating the dubious idea that we have a “border crisis” of migrants “pouring into” the country or that Russia is trying to “steal” life-saving vaccine research that should be free anyway. But it’s important to understand the problem with the Times: it is not that the facts it reports tend to be inaccurate—though sometimes they are—but that the facts are presented in a way that misleads. There is no single “fact” in the migrant story or the Russia story that I take issue with, what I take issue with is the conclusions that are being drawn from the facts. (Likewise, the headline “U.S. Says Hussein Intensifies Quest For A-Bomb Parts” is technically accurate: the U.S. government did, in fact, say that. It was just not true.) The New York Times is, in fact, extremely valuable, if you read it critically and look past the headlines. Usually the truth is in there somewhere, as there is a great deal of excellent reporting, and one could almost construct a serious newspaper purely from material culled from the New York Times. I’ve written before about the Times’ reporting on Hitler and the Holocaust: it wasn’t that the grim facts of the situation were left out of the paper, but that they were buried at the back and treated as unimportant. It was changes in emphasis that were needed, because the facts were there in black and white.

Trechos sobre a dificuldade de publicação independente:

It’s not easy or cheap to be an “independent researcher.” When I was writing my first book, Superpredator, I wanted to look through newspaper, magazine, and journal archives to find everything I could about Bill Clinton’s record on race. I was lucky I had a university affiliation, because this gave me access to databases like LexisNexis. If I hadn’t, the cost of finding out what I wanted to find out would likely have run into the thousands of dollars.

[...] I admit I bristle when I see people share PDFs of full issues of Current Affairs, because if this happened a lot, we could sell exactly 1 subscription and then the issue could just be copied indefinitely. Current Affairs would collapse completely if everyone tried to get our content for free rather than paying for it. (This is why you should subscribe! Or donate! Independent media needs your support!)

[–] obbeel 3 points 4 days ago

Falar que se você 'perscrutar' o New York Times vai encontrar a verdade ou algo de valor não é criticar. Além disso, incentiva as pessoas a pensarem que elas estão recebendo algo de maior valor por estarem pagando mais. Diria até que dizendo que essas pessoas não estão conseguindo 'escavar' os artigos do New York Times o suficiente.