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[–] Condiment2085@lemm.ee 5 points 4 days ago (3 children)

The one I thought of was actually "What do you think about astrology?"

The answer I am looking for is neither that they believe or don't believe it, I want to hear something between. Something like

"It's fun! I love seeing the connections between people born with similar birthdays and stuff, and honestly it does seem accurate sometimes. But also I don't live by it! What about you?"

This open, honest way of communicating is what's important. Didn't knock the idea down or support it 100%, just approached with an open mind.

[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Having an open mind is great and all, but once you’ve gathered enough information to take a position you’re not obligated to coddle those who remain willfully ignorant. I’ve personally never found astrology “fun,” it’s stupid woo that encourages people to adopt other stupid woo. At a time when anti-intellectualism is being institutionalized into government policy (in the US at least,) I don’t see how anyone in good faith can actively encourage that.

[–] Condiment2085@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't take astrology that seriously, it's more of a conversation starter or a tool for introspection. Sometimes I see things about my birthdate that help me notice new things about myself, and sometimes it just seems made up.

Connecting astrology to anti-intellectualism is a pretty big reach in my opinion. I don't think the ideas of astrology, religion, magic, etc should be applied to policy that impacts anybody else.

[–] ace_garp@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But, magical thinking can creep into policy, often with disastrous results.

A more solid footing can be achieved by consulting science educators, for perspective about our place in the universe.

[–] Condiment2085@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

I see your point - but there's always going to be questions science can't answer because science is based only on what we can observe and measure.

A big one is "where did everything come from"

So I don't see a way of avoiding magical or spiritual thinking - it's likely more important to separate that from fact when making decisions that effect more than just you :)

[–] LostXOR@fedia.io 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Sometimes knocking an idea down is justified, especially in the case of astrology.

[–] Condiment2085@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

Why? I don't see how astrology hurts anybody (unless people take it to extremes, like not dating someone because of their signs or something like that.)

[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My answer would be something along the lines of: I think astrology is vague enough to apply pretty generally, but the interesting thing about it is seeing people's reactions. It's a social placebo, and we can see how different people read into the same thing. "A new experience awaits you, Aries" and we see one person anticipating a raise a work, and thus behaving more confidently and getting it, while another is expecting divorce papers, and their behavior is helping them to reach that goal, too.

[–] Condiment2085@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

Pretty fair view on astrology! I have some friends/family members who have very close birthdays and it's actually remarkable how similar they are in certain ways. I feel like I typically see the similarities in the way they handle things like relationships, power dynamics, confidence, and they sort of thing.

For example I know many Geminis, and one pattern I've noticed is that they are all passive aggressive types. Like they won't tell you about a problem until it's too late, and then they will boil over and you'll end up in a fight about something that could have been resolved so much easier.

Could that be confirmation bias on my part? Definitely. But still it's a fun tool for introspection if you don't take it too far :) I also like to think of the history behind it and how humans developed it in such a human way just from observations.