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Federated Farmers of New Zealand is a lobby and advocacy group for farmers and rural communities. ^[Wikipedia]

https://xcancel.com/FedFarmers/status/1926787639874637905

Pine trees are eating up sheep and beef land β€”not because forestry is a better use of that land, but because of New Zealand’s flawed [Emissions Trading Scheme] settings 🌲 πŸ‘

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[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I don't want to be a contrarian, but pine tree monocultures -either for lumber or for carbon credit schemes- have so little ecosystemic benefit that they might as well be a field left to fallow. Especially if pines are not native species.

I'm sure these farmers don't care about that one bit, but let's remember to be critical of cosmetic "rewilding" projects, too.

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Net neutral is still better than net negative tbf

[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Permanent native grasslands, often maintained by traditional herding and transhumance practices, have been found to be more effective at carbon storage than planted forests. Not to mention the added benefit of increased biodiversity in local flora and fauna.

Again, it's like 99% clear that the Farmers Federation of New Zealand doesn't mean this kind of grassland of course, but my point is still that planting pines for the sake of planting them is not better than not using the land at all, or to go over it with sheep and cattle.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Why are pine trees a net negative? What's the right tree?

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Almost nothing can eat them, they smother growth on the forest floor, and they tend to burn in dry periods.

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[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago

New Zealand still has tree ferns and shit, crazy unique flora there. They are objectively the correct choice, because they look cool as fuck. They aren't technically trees though.

[–] DogThatWentGorp@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago

Here's a super fun stitch, depending on location the answer is "pine trees" but from a totally disperate clade of gymnosperm that is almost 100% not what they're talking about in the tweet

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agathis_australis

Araucariales is such a sickass clade.