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The rock stacking thing was more about people doing it in rivers and causing a bunch of erosion.
It was also that, yes. I remember the destruction of habitat thing and the native appropriation things being mentioned more vividly though. Either way it was am issue of environmental concerns v personal autonomy with a side of this being a minor issue.
When you're hiking on a public trail your personal autonomy is not a major priority.
Yea it was really "Here's why this is bad from a cultural, environmental, and societal perspective with examples of how they have caused negative impacts in specific instances"
Versus
"Yea but don't tell me what to do"
I'm not going to argue which is more important, there is no need to reawaken the struggle session while explaining it.
Honestly this site is no fun without the occasional struggle session. Things have been feeling a little too simpatico around here lately, we banned all the controversial users and now there's no fun drama anymore
That's probably because of federation. Interacting with people on the outside makes us appreciate each other more and gives an outlet for people looking for a fight.
Also you're 100% correct about the rock stacking thing, it was a completely innocent, informative post politely asking people not to go out of their way to do a random environmentally harmful thing, and a bunch of people went crazy over it for no reason.
That struggle session was so stupid because it was obviously started by nerds who never go outside let alone do any hiking, meaning they wouldn't even be in a position to be stacking rocks. People who actually hike would be hit with leave no trace signs while on the trail. The question was settled decades ago.
My personal block list begs to differ

Oh you should totally start a NEW struggle session in another thread. I'm totally up for that.
I agree, as good leftists we do need to be critical of ourselves and other leftists to further our progress, we call them 'struggle sessions', I know that's riffing on the Chinese Cultural Revolution but to me that gives them a negative connotation. What can we learn by only discussing the things we agree with? It's good practice for learning how to give and receive criticism without taking it too personally or getting overly emotional as well. Obviously this doesn't apply to reactionary views or fascist apologia.
I DISAGREE WITH YOU AND THINK YOU SUCK!!!
Dang it, I asked for this
No you didn't and saying you did is revisionism.
Dear god I can't handle the struggle
Yes you can. Not believing yourself is a form of liberalism
Believing in yourself is bourgeois decadence