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I have only been active on hexbear since last year, and checking in from time to time before that, so some of the taglines don't make any sense to me. Can someone please explain?

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[–] SovietBeerTruckOperator@hexbear.net 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What if a vegan outdoor cat stacking rocks was dating another cat somewhat younger than it while listening to Cumtown?

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 9 points 23 hours ago

69th Struggle Brigade reporting for duty

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 49 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] gingerbrat@hexbear.net 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sorry if I tore open old wounds ooooooooooooooh

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 2 points 2 hours ago

Lmao, you good sis

[–] Sickos@hexbear.net 6 points 19 hours ago

:thousand-yard-stare:

[–] autism_2@hexbear.net 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Outdoor cats + rock stacking/cairns struggle sessions

[–] gingerbrat@hexbear.net 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Thank you! But like, why were these topics struggle sessions? puzzled

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 47 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Cats kill birds, lizards and small mammals at a truly ridiculous rate and have caused the extinction of several such species. Rock stacking is a problem because sometimes stacked rocks are used as a marker either by natives or the national parks service and you making a bunch of fakes could end up causing confusion. Like setting up fake signs at a hiking trail. It also risks damaging the habitats of small animals.

Both of these arguments were contrasted with arguments about personal autonomy and how little damage is done by each individual who does this, compared to other forms of damage that can be done, and an argument followed.

To be fair, the argument was first about rock stacking on a large scale. Like every tourist, hiker, and camper doing it to post on social media. At the time of the argument, there were a bunch of reddit and tik tok posts about it. We were doing Discourse™ and creating Takes®.

[–] DengistDonnieDarko@hexbear.net 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

another aspect of the rock stacking is that the stones used to stack are often smooth riverbed stones, which when removed cause the flowing water to erode the riverbed at an increased rate, which has multiple knock-on effects that damage the environment in various and unpredictable ways (increased silt downstream, changes to oxygen levels, etc). it's incredibly harmful to the river's ecosystem.

[–] SovietBeerTruckOperator@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The rock stacking thing was more about people doing it in rivers and causing a bunch of erosion.

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It was also that, yes. I remember the destruction of habitat thing and the native appropriation things being mentioned more vividly though. Either way it was am issue of environmental concerns v personal autonomy with a side of this being a minor issue.

[–] SovietBeerTruckOperator@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

When you're hiking on a public trail your personal autonomy is not a major priority.

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago

Yea it was really "Here's why this is bad from a cultural, environmental, and societal perspective with examples of how they have caused negative impacts in specific instances"

Versus

"Yea but don't tell me what to do"

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not going to argue which is more important, there is no need to reawaken the struggle session while explaining it.

[–] SovietBeerTruckOperator@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago (4 children)

no need to reawaken the struggle session

Honestly this site is no fun without the occasional struggle session. Things have been feeling a little too simpatico around here lately, we banned all the controversial users and now there's no fun drama anymore sadness

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

That's probably because of federation. Interacting with people on the outside makes us appreciate each other more and gives an outlet for people looking for a fight.

Also you're 100% correct about the rock stacking thing, it was a completely innocent, informative post politely asking people not to go out of their way to do a random environmentally harmful thing, and a bunch of people went crazy over it for no reason.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 5 points 21 hours ago

Also you're 100% correct about the rock stacking thing, it was a completely innocent, informative post politely asking people not to go out of their way to do a random environmentally harmful thing, and a bunch of people went crazy over it for no reason.

That struggle session was so stupid because it was obviously started by nerds who never go outside let alone do any hiking, meaning they wouldn't even be in a position to be stacking rocks. People who actually hike would be hit with leave no trace signs while on the trail. The question was settled decades ago.

[–] Crucible@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago

we banned all the controversial users

My personal block list begs to differ ban-hammer im-doing-my-part

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago

Oh you should totally start a NEW struggle session in another thread. I'm totally up for that.

[–] tocopherol@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I agree, as good leftists we do need to be critical of ourselves and other leftists to further our progress, we call them 'struggle sessions', I know that's riffing on the Chinese Cultural Revolution but to me that gives them a negative connotation. What can we learn by only discussing the things we agree with? It's good practice for learning how to give and receive criticism without taking it too personally or getting overly emotional as well. Obviously this doesn't apply to reactionary views or fascist apologia.

[–] SovietBeerTruckOperator@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I DISAGREE WITH YOU AND THINK YOU SUCK!!!

[–] tocopherol@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Keld@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No you didn't and saying you did is revisionism.

[–] tocopherol@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Dear god I can't handle the struggle oooaaaaaaauhhh

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes you can. Not believing yourself is a form of liberalism

Believing in yourself is bourgeois decadence

[–] gingerbrat@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago

Thank you for the explanation! Sounds like I missed a major discussion.

If nothing else, I now at least understand the tagline.

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I mean, I think this description is pretty strawmanny and not a fair representation of the struggle session, but I'll say no more because this thread is already bait enough.

[–] gingerbrat@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Just wanna chime in and say I'm already sorry I asked about the tagline. This wasn't meant to be bait posting, I just honestly didn't know what it was about.

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)

You did nothing wrong and no one is mad at you.

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 4 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Absolutely not a problem and no need to apologise, though I appreciate it.

Even as someone who posted and got over-invested in both struggle sessions, I think it's 100% funny you asked. Care-Comrade

[–] gingerbrat@hexbear.net 3 points 18 hours ago

I'm happy to hear that and thank you Care-Comrade

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I could obviously have framed things differently, but no part of what I said was wrong or misrepresenting either side.

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Well, maybe one of us is misremembering/misinterpreted, but I posted in both struggle sessions and I completely disagree with your representation of the sides.

[–] CARCOSA@hexbear.net 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] gingerbrat@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago

Oh okay doggirl-sweat

Glad I missed these two

[–] macabrett2@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago

this is a can of outdoor cats you don't want to open, comrade

[–] Edie@hexbear.net 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] gingerbrat@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're being mean again lol

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)