Nah, I'm out of empathy budget, it's been all used up caring about the victims of the various genocides the western colonial empire has carried out against oppressed peoples.

Sure don't dehumanize yourself, but no, hatred is not dehumanizing.

"Do unto others as you would have done unto yourself" comes with a corollary: as others do unto others, so they bring back upon themselves.

It is disgusting and fundamentally unfair that Nazis and Zionazis murder so many innocent people but then go on to enjoy long and happy lives. Where they ruin people's lives and make them suffer horrific losses, they get to go home and be happy. I feel no shame in saying that if oppressors killed my family, I would want to take their families away in exchange, so that they could feel some of the same pain they inflicted upon me.

I was raised Muslim, and I took great comfort in believing that the monsters who chose to butcher millions of Iraqis by invading Iraq would go to Hell and would suffer for what they'd done. The agony of those who died, and the torments of those who survived but lost their families and would carry that grief with them for the rest of their lives, had to be repaid somehow. It would be fundamentally wrong and unjust for those butchers to be "forgiven", as the Christians believed was possible through confession.

Now, there certainly are problems with doing exactly to the perpetrators what they've done to their victims, because some things are just undignified. For example, it'd be impossible to ethically

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IDF guards who did that to Palestinian captives. So instead, they should be punished in a way that doesn't debase the people who enact the punishment, while still making them suffer to a degree approximately comparable to the degree to which their victims suffered at their hands. Life in prison under harsh conditions is one such option.

Should a Zionist Nazi's kid be killed because they supported killing Palestinian kids? On the one hand, eh, maybe, because then they feel the grief of their kid being killed. But more emphatically, no because that's unfair to the child and the child may be able to be salvaged by intensive re-education and rehabilitation programs. Instead, an equivalent approximation of suffering is called for, and that may mean imprisonment of the adults under harsh conditions, or it may mean Hell. Hell is a concept for a reason. It lets people call for retributive torture without sounding psychotic and expresses intense feelings of being wronged and needing the scales to be evened. The best way to even the scales is to bring the dead back to life. Since that is impossible, revenge will have to suffice. While revenge does not make anything better, it is better to bring down the perpetrators than to let them go on to enjoy their lives after ruining other people's lives. But leaving punishment to a Hell that likely does not exist is not really fair either, and that's why it is good when bad things happen to war criminals and those who support them.

Even the most despicable Zionist you can think of deserves better than what the Palestinians are going through.

Absolutely fucking not. Way to spit on the graves of the dead. Way to spit on the wounded hearts of those who've lost their whole families to these genocidal fucks. The most despicable Zionist deserves at least as much as they wish upon the Palestinians, but preferably more, because an eye for an eye is an unfair trade -- when someone takes the eye of an innocent, they implicitly consent to having their eye taken in turn, which means that the harm of doing something unjust to someone against their will cannot be repaid simply by taking their eye back. An evil eye for an innocent eye is not enough. I say instead, an evil head for an innocent eye!

Chastise the pacifist in your head, for it spits on the graves of the victims. Zionazis celebrate when they murder Palestinians. Well, as they want for others, they deserve for themselves. I'm not advocating a counter-genocide to pay them back for genocide because genocide is an act that inherently debases and dehumanizes the perpetrators and the Palestinians do not deserve to be made into monsters by the people who brutalized them, but I will never shed a single tear for any dead Isntreali unless they died as traitors against their apartheid state fighting for Palestinian liberation.

Similarly, I'm going to say it was really cool that Nakam (Revenge), the "terrorist" group of Jewish partisans, tried to kill 6 million Germans by poisoning a city's water supply and it's too bad British intelligence foiled their designs. It is the right of genocided peoples to extract a price in blood from their oppressors. Not from other people, as Nakam went on to do after their plans were interrupted (many of them went to Israel to do war crimes against undeserving Palestinians instead of deserving Germans), but from their oppressors. We joke all the time about how Germany did not de-Nazify, Stalin should not have stopped at Berlin, and that the whole country was complicit, and should stand by those principles even when they lead to uncomfortable conclusions such as "it's totally fine to kill people who have been genociding you".

Let it never get to the point where we cheer for some IDF general to get murked alongside 7 members of his family I'm not to the point where I'll cheer, but I'd get some grim satisfaction that Nazis are getting what they've done to others. I also find it difficult to imagine being married to some IDF general and not either doing a Lysistrata to get him to quit or murking him in his sleep to avenge his victims, so I don't have any sympathy for his wife. The kids? Sure, a little sympathy for the kids because kids are stupid and impressionable and can in theory be saved by re-educating them, but I'll be honest, I grew up around a lot of Zionist kids and they were so despicably racist to my family that I don't really care what happens to them.

The most compelling reason I can think of to not target civilians or the families of these Nazis, the reason I say they should not be targeted, is that there are rules against targeting civilians for a reason, and it debases and dishonors a fighting force to deliberately target civilians. It is not immoral, but it is undignified.

(I am an atheist, ex-muslim, none of my religious takes should be taken as the take of a true believer).

In practical terms: Any sort of durable peace process will mean that the vast majority of evildoers go unpunished. The vast majority of victims will go unavenged. This is just because of the practical realities of forging political peace and an end to fighting. So I'm not going to waste any emotional energy feeling sorry for Zionazis when they suffer a fraction of what they've done to Palestinians, or what they've cheered being done to Palestinians. Just as I didn't waste any emotional energy feeling sorry for American soldiers or their families when American soldiers would come home from doing war crimes in the middle east with PTSD and blown-off limbs. They have it coming and they are getting off easy already, there's no need to have any empathy for these ghouls.