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Lots of protests, lots of people willing to go out and disrupt cities and force the state to listen. Great! I know Americans suffer under a fascist police state, commit genocides, underfund public services, ooh - they have a shitty bourgeois democratic system, maybe they're protesting to fix that, or maybe they're demanding free healthcare, that's long overdue. No, I know, it'll be about the insane amount of school shootings, or serious police violence. I know the LA riots started against ICE, that's cool, so maybe they're protesting for actually fair justice! That'd be a step forward.

Whatever they're protesting, they seem to be in huge numbers, so they'll probably make an actual effort to disrupt things. Occupy buildings. You know, some sort of direct action, they can't all stand around pointlessly. Anyway, enough anticipation let's go look and find out

Oh, the protests are just "Trump bad" in another form. And they're decrying all forms of violence. And the police are literally collaborating with some. Oh.

Americans really took all these years of mistreatment, fascism, genocide with their tax dollars, deliberately being made poorer year after year, violent suppression, being allowed to die in droves, and the mass culmination of that is.. "trump bad, also be polite while saying it"??? And then the protests are used as an excuse to tighten the fascism.

I can't wrap my head around it. Millions(?) of people coming out to protest, and the overwhelming demand is 'replace orange man with another genocidal fascist pls'. ie. basically for nothing to change whatsoever.

At least leftists try to get the fucking goods. Lib organising is the worst.

EDIT: I'mma just be clear - protesting ICE is extremely cool and not the part I'm complaining about.

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[–] PaulBunyan@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It sounds like you assume it’s pointless without instant results. Overtaking buildings and doing anything even in the grey area of legal would be a step back.

I was impressed how many people showed up to their first protest ever yesterday. My 67 year old dad went to his first protest yesterday. My non-political, never voted friend went to their first protest yesterday. It brought out a new group of people to stand up.

[–] XxFemboy_Stalin_420_69xX@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Overtaking buildings and doing anything even in the grey area of legal would be a step back.

if you believe this you are actively trying to lose the fight against fascism

[–] Chertstone@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago

These people already go into a battle ready to surrender. Its amazing how some people are so addicted to losing just to merely meet an arbitrary definition of legality. Guess who decides whats "legal" & "appropriate".

[–] Skye@hexbear.net 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah, the only proper way of fighting a fascist regime is doing what they explicitly allow you to do because they think it's pointless and only serves as a distraction from any meaningful resistance. While making sure to swear allegiance to it at least every 5 minutes, of course! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[–] porcupine@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It brought out a new group of people to stand up.

Please explain your intended outcome and the specific mechanism by which you believe this action will ultimately help achieve it in a way that any “legal gray area” would not.

[–] Chertstone@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They kinda forgot that trump could just make "brining new people to stand up" a "legal gray area" and then what?

[–] porcupine@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 day ago

“Of course he can’t do that, because it would violate The Constitution!”

[–] SootySootySoot@hexbear.net 0 points 1 day ago

I was impressed how many people showed up to their first protest ever yesterday.

Ignoring the other parts, I'm not saying this is necessarily a bad thing, but that it's effectively fruitless on its own merit. If your first protest proved pointless, confused, and entirely ineffective, are many people really going to feel empowered to go on to do meaningful actions? Or will they instead feel justified in staying at home and never bothering?