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[–] cam_i_am@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Honestly I think the vast majority of people on the left would agree with most of what you said. A lot of the corporate rainbow flag waving is pretty performative and cringe.

The whole pronoun thing is pretty simple really, just don't say "he" to someone who says "I'm a she". That's really all there is to it. 99% of the the time you can tell whether someone is a he or a she. Sometimes it's not obvious, or you might get it wrong. As long as the other person can say "hey I'm a he actually" and you respond with "Oh my bad bro", then you are all good.

I know there are some people out there who try to make the pronoun thing into some huge deal but that's really all it is. I know plenty of trans people and non-binary people and they're all chill, they just don't want to be called by the wrong thing. And honestly, neither do I!

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Exactly. I think the most natural way to deal with this is on a person-by-person basis (just like with any other issue of identity), where you just ask if your unsure (which I've also done before), just like with anything else. No need for an institutional framework around it.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Congratulations, you are now considered woke.

[–] glad_cat@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ve never met anyone who introduced themselves with pronouns, only the first name. In which country is it a common thing?

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I did meet a few people where I couldn't guess what gender they were, but they introduced themselves along with their pronouns (which was helpful). Sometimes I was in groups where the gender-obvious introduced themselves with their pronouns too though which felt excessive

[–] cam_i_am@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think people do that sometimes in order to make the one trans or androgenous person not feel like "the odd one out" bc they're the only one who has the give their pronouns.

So I get why people do it but I agree it can be a bit awkward. I don't do it myself but I don't have any problem with people who do.

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Exactly. Yeah that's how I understood it as well