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I'm kind of bummed about this, the game already has a ton of content but BoTW had some great challenging DLC and ToTK would have definitely benefitted from something similar.

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[–] Cummunism@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd imagine it to be mostly backwards compatible

it fucking better be. of course it would be way smarter to just fuck consumers and make them buy everything again because enough probably would.

[–] LeylaLove@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's no good reason for Nintendo to switch off ARM, it's gonna be backwards compatible like the Wii, GameCube and WiiU all are. Nintendo making a sequel console that isn't a Switch 2 makes no sense.

[–] Cummunism@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ok i kinda know what ARM is so i see what youre saying i think The CPU/GPU architecture is not changing so it should be backwards compatible still. Just make the damn thing more powerful.

[–] LeylaLove@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They will. The Switch was made with an Nvidia Tegra X1, a chip that was already old when the Switch released. When Nvidia used it, they marketed it to mobile gamers who wanted to do gamestreaming on Android. The Switch is essentially a flagship Android tablet from 2015.

I'm expecting the new switches to be much better. Even if they make it an Android tablet from 2019, there were still so many improvements in mobile tech in that time.

[–] Redmutineer75@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From what other reports have stated, this will likely have the raw power of a PS4, but will be effectively supercharged by DLSS. With Nvidia making DLSS 3.5 compatible with all RTX 20 series and up cards, I wouldn't be surprised if it's on this system. I'd say something like Series S while docked, Steam Deck while portable.

[–] LeylaLove@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, there have been so many software innovations since the Switch released. My OnePlus 6t is capable of emulating Wii games and it's just a flagship phone from a year after the Switch came out. A Switch with just DLSS, newer RAM, a newer ARM architecture and no other changes would still be a massive upgrade. Nintendo is using a first gen 64 bit ARM chip. These are essentially free performance gains for Nintendo.

I'm assuming it's going to be pretty comparable in power to something like a Galaxy S20. Sounds weak, but it's about 3-4x faster than the Shield TV the switch is based on. Nvidia has made a TON of progress in chip manufacturing since Maxwell, aka the generation right before Nvidia made the perfect graphics card. It would be difficult for Nintendo not to make this a pretty big jump in power. Even if Nvidia doesn't buy in (I think they will) they could literally just grab a snapdragon off the shelf and make a new Switch that's 4x more powerful.

[–] Redmutineer75@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

According to the 2022 Nvidia leak, the Switch 2 uses a custom chip named the T239 Drake, based on the T234 Orin. Still unclear as to whether it'll use Ampere or Ada Lovelace architecture, but given that the recent VGC report said just DLSS and not frame generation, I think it's more likely to be the former.

[–] LeylaLove@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I'd bet on Ampere for sure, Nintendo is still gonna go with the old tech. Lovelace wouldn't do much unless they wanted to do heavy ray tracing and I don't think they do. I think they're interested in seeing what they can do artistically with raytracing but don't care enough about it to go all out.

The only thing I can guarantee about the Switch 2 is it will be on ARM and it will have DLSS. Or in though? That seems fuckin massive for a mobile chip. Yeah it'll get cut down, but there are a lot of aspects of Orin that seem like they'd be overkill for Nintendo. But then again, I think Nintendo wants to stop people from emulating their shit and making a sequel switch overkill powerful would do it

[–] Redmutineer75@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The point where the buck stops is price. I can't imagine a casual and family focused company like Nintendo would want to charge more than $400 for a system, while remaining at a profit.