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[–] ikilledtheradiostar@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All the choas gods are neither good nor evil. They're just manifestations of latent sentient psychic power.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see them as symptomatic of the suffering of mortal beings in the setting, many of them specifically suffering in Imperium of Man hive worlds and crushed under the weight of oppression and servitude. The Imperium tries to fight the symptoms because the High Lords of Terra benefit from the disease and always have. :Sigmarxism:

[–] ikilledtheradiostar@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The only pushback I would offer is that they're empowered by strong emotions generally. Like Slaneesh from love, or pleasure. Is that pleasure from non consensual sadism? ~~Sometimes~~. Mostly, lol 40k suuucks

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I could add a mostly to it, because so much empowerment of Chaos seems to come from negative emotions, such as hate, fear, greed, and yeah non consensual sadism.

[–] ikilledtheradiostar@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mostly

yeah I agree.

However it would be possible to generate the gods from a 40k that was ordered differently, like a communist choas god that arose from an abundance of self actualization.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

In the pleasant brightness of the far future, there is only comradeship and community ping pong tournaments. ussr-cry

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I kinda wish the writers would have a more nuanced view of Chaos, but Chaos just seems to be "spiky Imperium" and easily identifiable bad guys. Ain't nothing about the God of Death and the God of Life having a relationship being a mythical version of a circle of life. >:(

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd prefer a Liberation Chaos Theology take if the writers werent pandering to their big spending SPEHS MUHREEN cryptofascist whales.

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm always baffled by nerds on various 40k groups asking about what "really" happened in some event or other. And apparently that shit sells given the popularity of the horus heresy books. Bleh

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some of the most insufferable "measure Star Wars characters in 'who would win in a fight based entirely upon imagined midi-chlorian count" nerds tend to be not only accepting but pleased with the retcon where the Imperial Guardsman who fought and died alongside the Emperor against Horus is sort of pushed out of canon history because his magic space eugenics power level was too low to matter. scared-fash

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be young again. Looking back, what shit pit of a first online community to interact with

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I used to be very earnestly naive and thought it'd exciting nerd talk about X-Wing technical specs and maybe exploring the mysteries of the Force...

But no. The most active ongoing threads daily were "who would win in a fight" pissing contests that were all debated entirely on midi-chlorian count. Some even did nerd accountant "fantasy football" style team matchups that compared the sum of these midi-chlorian counts to these midi-chlorian counts to decide who won. They even did body mass percentage deductions for Darth Vader's missing limbs as part of their magic microbe math. lea-why

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I remember "energy output of a turbolaser based on this effect of an asteroid being destroyed" with some spurious pixel counting. And how it would totally destroy the Star Trek ship. Or vs 40k stuff. Gotta make sure your fictional guys can beat up their fictional guys.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

The most exhausting versions of those "X vs Y" debates were "dae le Q would just kill everyone in enemy universe" which is nothing like the character or what they would do. They'd have started the versus match to watch if anything.