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[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sometimes similar people to that revel in "everyone is an asshole" stories if what they get out of it is "therefore status quo good, pick your favorite ruling class monster to quote and emulate." You can often tell when those stories come about and how they'll be received when the supposed worst character is the one that is trying to improve society somewhat instead of just oinking and rolling in shit like everyone else in it.

[–] Poogona@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"These are bad guys, good thing that's not us" stories hit different than "nobody can be good actually" stories, sure

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"nobody can be good actually"

This can sometimes miss its audience as the intended message. Look at how many people idolize and imitate Walter White walter-breakdown or even fucking Patrick Bateman. bateman-ontological

[–] Poogona@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tony Soprano is probably the best example. Undeniably a compelling character, constantly wavering in a sort of moral blind spot and making you think about the reliability of the signifiers we look for in figuring out who to trust. For some he's just an awesome dad who kicks ass and gets shit done

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

For some he's just an awesome dad who kicks ass and gets shit done

The worst chuds in my biological family directly quote that character, including to their own wives. Yes, they're also wifebeating fascists.

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ulysses hows do you know so many terrible people?

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Location, location, location! this-is-fine

I work where I have to meet lots of people that are generally not happy to see me because I'm talking to them about problems their kids are having in class. Also, I have coworkers that I am friendly enough with (it makes the day more bearable) that I just sort of quietly listen to their terrible takes. Also, bookstores and other hangouts around here tend to have very opinionated people that don't hesitate to talk up strangers about their "ideas" (they want to sell you on some "hustle" or startup, both of which are abundant here).

Well, that and having a very chuddy biological family (in-laws are a lot better and that's where I go for the holidays now).

[–] 1nt3rd1m3nt10n4l@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I work where I have to meet lots of people that are generally not happy to see me because I'm talking to them about problems their kids are having in class.

See, I always thought you has some kind of office job adjacent to the IT sector, or something, cause that also comes up a lot in your posts.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

Some kind of office job adjacent to the IT sector

Without giving too many details, there's a lot of office jobs in the same building because of how the district is organized, and I share a break room with a fair number of them too.

And because of where the district is, there's a lot of enthusiasm for whatever bullshit pipes in from the Bay nearby.