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I thought we all were against great man history around here.
We are. Bernie running for president, and the galvanizing effect he had, were only possible by way of the material conditions of American capitalism in 2016-2020, and the social movements like Occupy, which preceded him.
That doesn't make him not important.
i agree that he was important, but important and "ruining the possibility of mass movements" is a huge jump.
Oh, that I agree with. I disagree with OP that Bernie specifically "Ruined the possibility of mass movements". We're just in a liberal malaise where they've all gone back to brunch, while the world is still burning.
That Said, petite bourgois liberals are hardly the core of many social movements. We ought to be looking to the colonized and oppressed people's in this country to take us anywhere.
agreed agreed, although i do think America specifically will be dragged kicking and screaming into the future.
Not in 2019 and early 2020, I was there I saw it happen EVERYONE went in for Bernie, he became the nexus of the American left, for over a year all conversations led back to him
Most of the lefties who went full communism in 2017 and 2018 drank that electoral seltzer, nobody wanted to hear any doomerism on the subject
Then March 2020 hit and suddenly blazing-eyed Lenins were everywhere
Where did that bring you?
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Back to me