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A federal judge on Monday issued a gag order on former President Donald Trump, limiting what he can say about special counsel Jack Smith’s federal prosecution into his alleged attempt to subvert in the 2020 presidential election.

The order restricts Trump’s ability to publicly target court personnel, potential witnesses, or the special counsel and his staff. The order did not impose restrictions on disparaging comments about Washington, DC, – where the jury will take place – or certain comments about the Justice Department at large, both of which the government requested.

“This is not about whether I like the language Mr. Trump uses,” Judge Tanya Chutkan said. “This is about language that presents a danger to the administration of justice.”

“His presidential candidacy does not give him carte blanche to vilify public servants who are simply doing their jobs,” the judge added.

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[–] 0110010001100010@lemmy.world 199 points 1 year ago (11 children)

And the consequences when he breaks this order less than 24 hours from now?

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 106 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fucking right?! Can we just lock him up just this once? I'm sick of him dominanting the discourse. I just want universal healthcare/ basic income.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You just want things that our current overlords will never give us. Don’t worry, I’m on your side. We’ll get there, eventually.

Vote.

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Better happen sooner then later. America is just asking for a John Q moment.

[–] Z3k3@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can you indulge a non American idiot. What's a John q moment. All I'm finding when searching is a denzel Washington movie with the synopsis not giving quite enough context to fit

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's essentially what took place in that movie. Health care wouldn't cover a life saving procedure for Denzel Washington's character's child. So he held up the hospital until his child got care. I honestly forgot how it ended. But if I had to guess he gets shot and his kid gets to live.

Edit:

John is ultimately acquitted of attempted murder and armed criminal action, but convicted of kidnapping and false imprisonment. His lawyer assures him that he will likely serve no more than two years. As John is escorted from the courthouse, Lester proclaims him as a hero, and a now-healthy Michael gains eye contact with his father, saying "Dad!" and then, "Thank you".

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Q.#:~:text=John%20is%20ultimately%20acquitted%20of,of%20kidnapping%20and%20false%20imprisonment.

[–] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I honestly think there's going to be a mass shooting at an insurance or pharmaceutical company. Someone's eventually going to go after a CEO out of spite

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

They may provide us with tasty cutlets though.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

For some reason no media seem to have linked to a copy of the gag order, but prior reporting suggests that the judge's threat if Trump violates the order is to do one thing he really doesn't want the court to do, which is move up the trial date.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which is a quite reasonable move.

"Dude continues with his threats? Alright, let's get this over with. And add his threats to the pile of evidence."

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

The theory is hey, if he's going to keep trying to tamper with witnesses and jurors, were going to expedite the trial to minimize his opportunity.

Probably along with fines.

[–] spider@lemmy.nz 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

the consequences when he breaks this order

Probably another huge influx of campaign cash.

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Peek*

Unless you can show me a stealthy mountain

[–] President_Pyrus@feddit.dk 3 points 1 year ago

Gregor Clegane definitely isn't.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Mt Rainier

Stealthiest mountain I ever seen

"oooh are ya gonna see me today? Maybe, maybe not"

Edit: misspelled

[–] Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Rainier? 😅🤦🏼‍♂️

The irony is thick in this one.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oops

My family is from Seattle, they would be ashamed

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

It is so stealthy, people don't even know the name correctly.

Looking at you, Mr James Bond...

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Lets hope for the best. Don't they have these solitary confinement cells that are painted in pink floor to ceiling?

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm going to go with a double-serious rebuke.

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Supposedly having the trial sooner.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

"That were three more violations in yesterdays speech, so we will move the trial back another three weeks. See you in court next Tuesday, Mr. Trump."

[–] crawley@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

They'll issue another gag order...

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same thought here.

This ultimately means nothing if he doesn’t face any consequences for breaking the court order.

[–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 1 points 1 year ago

It's been widely reported that she will move up the trial date which is the last thing he wants since his strategy is to delay until after the election at which time, if he wins, none of this will matter. The theory is that doing so gives him less time to intimidate witnesses and officers of the courts.

[–] uphillbothways@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I'm not a lawyer, but that should be felony contempt for violating a direct court order.

[–] sunbytes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I think for people with a reputation for not paying bills, this kind of thing should be held as a deposit.

Just so they can't delay paying it for years.

It's just gone the moment the judge decides it, and he has to appeal it back

I mean, it's an awful precent for everyone else, but for him and Rudy and Alex Jones there's really no other way to get the cash out of them.