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tweet by amtrak ben: i think we should build high speed rail next to freeways only because it would make drivers feel like complete losers all the time
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this post was submitted on 31 Oct 2023
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Why do you want to make people feel bad on purpose?
Carbrains go out of their way to make pedestrians and cyclists feel bad on purpose, and society subsidizes their planet-burning nonsense and needlessly plans cities around humoring their personalized pollution machines.
Fuck 'em.
You are stuck on twitter mentality where everyone is radicalized and fights the other side.
You describe people as monsters. Go outside, touch grass, no one kills anyone on purpose. System is problem, not
https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/18/us/legislation-protects-drivers-injure-protesters/index.html
You live in a bubble world where you feel comfortably smug and want to talk down to other people. You are stuck on a Reddit mentality and it disgusts me.
Also, since you smugly (and deepy ignorantly) claimed no one kills anyone on purpose because you're that high on your own farts in that bubble world of yours, here's some people that kill on purpose, a lot more than no one. The source should be liberal enough for you to not whine about "bias" either. Maybe.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/hate-incidents
I am always sussed out when I see xxxx.xxxx.xxxx unless it's lemmy.ml
is outdated
https://www.factcheck.org/2019/07/protections-for-drivers-who-hit-protesters-didnt-pass/
except Oklahoma
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/04/22/us/oklahoma-law-drivers-protesters/index.html
Its my perspective on you
Its easy to find on internet people killing in US.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=shooting&t=fpas&iar=news&ia=news
Ultimate measure of safety is percieved personal safety. I have to admit I didnt know situation in US is so bad with over half of people feeling unsafe
https://www.newsweek.com/young-americans-most-likely-feel-unsafe-daily-basis-poll-1728660
As I live in a country where 13% feel unsafe
https://www.britishpoles.uk/do-poles-feel-safe-in-their-country/
Realistically speaking ordinary people probably dont encounter agression on daily basis as they run errand, but violent acts happen more often so more people feel unsafe. Ordinary people dont kill for sure
I still disagree with your view of drivers on a highway
All of those words and you're still a centrist douche that is preaching "civility" to people here while being playing the part of a smug condescending asshole.
If you want a PPB presentation you're welcome to it, but you deserve no further reply. Go away.
Car brain is salty
Carbrain is a systemic issue
To encourage them to engage in better behaviors when they can
People on driving on highways drive on them either because they need to, rural public transit is non-existent, it is cheaper or long distance transit is shit. They have their reasons and seeing train flying by wont change them unless it makes a better alternative.
You two are in agreement. They want more rail built as a viable alternative to driving. The 'shame' factor is just an advertisement for a superior method.
This is just reinventing homo oeconomicus but for transportation. People aren't rational
carbrains should feel bad. constantly.
You dont want to solve any problem. You want to make people suffer
What problem are you solving by smugly standing "in the middle" and snorting up your own farts here?
I oppose the inital idea of building high speed rail line next to a highway with only goal of making drivers feel bad on purpose as I dont see shitting on a minor group of radicals a meaningful way of helping whole society
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People suffer from not optimal train route and see it as they drive on a highway
You are seizing on a specific part of a post that was making a joke and fixating on that one thing, which is why people are dunking on you.
I want transportation system to be improved for people's welldom and without trying to impose any views sacrifiing quality in the process
"See these losers on train? They built 20% longer route only because they wanted to make passagers see losers on highway"
Your persuasion method (which doesn't even matter since people here already support mass transit) is to be a smug condescending centrist douche.
It's useless. You're useless.
You are in a room where everyone already agrees that high speed rail is good.
Someone makes a (very fucking obvious) joke about how high speed rail is so good we should build them next to highways to make carbrains jealous.
You: um actually we shouldn't try to make people feel bad. Making people jealous is bad policy decision. Doing that would make the train less efficient too.
Everyone else in the room: yes we know you joyless nerd.
yes, you've figured it out. well done.
Pollution kills 9 million people annually.
"suffer"
We can do both at the same time. I got two hands.
and thousands of ceramics!
Suffer how exactly?
I am suffering because you have reminded me that I am a ding dong.
Por que no los dos