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When Threads launched on Wednesday, numerous right-wing users shared(opens in a new tab) their dissatisfaction(opens in a new tab) with Twitter's biggest competitor — on Twitter of course — over having their accounts flagged for disinformation. As of Friday, however, it seems the warning label on accounts that reported the issue has since disappeared.

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[–] hal_5700X@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Twitter and Truth Social have already captured the right-wing market

Oh no! Anyway. All right-wingers are not bad people.

[–] NovaPrime@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Personal morality alignment aside, the fact is those who support right wing policies and candidates, and those who identiy as 'right wingers' either explicitly or implicitly support right wing policies. These have time and time again been shown in practice to widen the inequality gap, suppress wages and purchasing power for non-capital owners, disproportionately reward corporate greed, roll back regulations put in place to preserve general health and welfare, decrease healthcare access and standards (same with education), disenfranchise minorities...etc.

[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, they just make bad political decisions.

[–] hal_5700X@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

So you judge people by their actions not what they are?

[–] MiloSquirrel@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

You are your actions.

If someone consistently does horrible, hateful actions, guess what. They're a horrible, hateful person.

[–] TheSaneWriter@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Absolutely, though I'm a believer that what they are is in part defined by their actions. Any label prescribed onto people is a mixture of identity and actions, and only the actions impact other people, and I personally believe that someone's moral worth is determined by the effects of their actions on other people.

[–] Landrin201@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

If not by their actions, how do you judge someone? I cannot know "who they are" unless they either tell me or show me, and actions speak louder than words.

So many people will claim to be "good people" then go on a 20 minute rant about the "gay groomer agenda" and how gay people should "leave children alone" and how black people "commit too much crime and need to be policed more for it" when you give them one glass of wine and start talking about politics. Their overall stance is clear, and it isn't on the side of "being a good person."

[–] exu@feditown.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Uh, yes. How else would you judge people?

[–] hal_5700X@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago
[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That depends on your definition of "right winger." Your average Republican is likely a fine person, but your average fascist isn't. If you:

  • support Jan 6 rioters
  • believe in QAnon
  • believe in phrenology
  • think we should have less immigration

You're probably not a good person. But if you merely believe in smaller government and think the GOP will give that to you, then you're probably fine. I don't have a problem with people who support the GOP (I do have a problem with the GOP itself), but I do have a problem with the right wing of the GOP and especially the few who the GOP consider "too radical" for the party.

The same is true for the left end of the spectrum as well. Basically, once you go too far down one end of the spectrum, there's a good chance you're self-selecting as a bad person.

If you want to use the might of government to right some "social wrong," we're probably not going to agree. Government should merely exist to maintain order and protect the vulnerable, it shouldn't be used to regiment society in any real way.

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

if you merely believe in smaller government and think the GOP will give that to you, then you’re delusional and gullible

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sure, but that doesn't make you a bad person.

I grew up as a fervent GOP supporter and thought they just weren't able to execute because I lived in a blue state, and then I moved to a red state and realized the problem isn't with any given party, but the lack of accountability when they have a clear majority.

So I now consider myself libertarian and vote for whichever candidate has a decent platform in a given election. In my state, that's usually libertarians and Democrats, and for President, it varies by election. My vote doesn't matter that much either way, but I try to do my due diligence anyway in case I can influence others who live in more interesting areas.

I dislike both major parties, but both field decent candidates from time to time. Unfortunately, that hasn't happened for President in quite some time though.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Government has been and still is used to regiment society in very real ways. In all likelihood it always will be used this way. Believing that it shouldn't serves to distract from that reality and from the actions of those who use it to achieve their goals. E.g. pushing for small government is often used to remove regulation so that capitalists can offload more of their costs (such as externalities) to the rest of society - a.k.a. socializing their losses.

[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The prerequisite to identify yourself as a right-winger is to have a severe deficit in basic problem solving skills and the ability to logically deconstruct misinformation. While they're not all inherently bad people, they are absolutely being manipulated by some of the worst people this world has to offer and I say that without a grain of hyperbolism. The sheer amount of self-contradictions and hypocrisy that comes from right wing outlets makes my head spin but is often completely overlooked or willfully ignored by those who are made to support those positions out of fear or anger.

Conservatives are widely victims of the upper class mass-generating misinformation to keep people distracted on culture wars so they don't notice the desperate need for a class war. Socialism is compared to Communism, Communism is compared to the USSR, somehow reviving The Red Scare and in the next breath will praise Putin for the unprovoked slaughter of Ukrainians because 'that's what a strong leader does'. All of which is done to distract from policies that would make the rich less rich by making some of the worst possible takes. The mere fact gas stoves was actually turned into a culture war speaks volumes about how little these idiots need to generate outrage.

I pity them more than anything but I'm not immune to getting irrationally angry at the terminally stupid.

[–] MelonTheMan@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Now you're cooking with poison!

[–] buckykat@lemmy.fmhy.ml -1 points 1 year ago