"If you flag our lies, we'll cry!!!!" -Republicans
this post was submitted on 10 Jul 2023
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Any platform that welcomes or caters to the political right wing is rendered effectively useless.
But it's all right wing media. You think people/media are pro-workers?
Twitter and Truth Social have already captured the right-wing market, kowtowing to their demands is not going to earn Threads new users and will discourage moderates from signing up.
Also, it totally proves that any instance that preemptively defederates from them is 100% in the right (for any people who honestly believe in a wait and see approach).
I was anti-defederate until now. I've always thought "fuck them," but this is what I needed to say we should cut them out of the fediverse. Boot lickers.
Yeah, I largely agree. I know there are people that are concerned about Mastadon's growth, but honestly the biggest thing preventing Mastadon from growing is that normies find federation to be confusing and stupid and small Mastadon instances have bad discoverability.
if you create a fresh new unlinked tiktok account and start swiping, most content will be vaccine propaganda, jordan peterson, and right-wing rhetorics.
Twitter and Truth Social have already captured the right-wing market
Oh no! Anyway. All right-wingers are not bad people.
Personal morality alignment aside, the fact is those who support right wing policies and candidates, and those who identiy as 'right wingers' either explicitly or implicitly support right wing policies. These have time and time again been shown in practice to widen the inequality gap, suppress wages and purchasing power for non-capital owners, disproportionately reward corporate greed, roll back regulations put in place to preserve general health and welfare, decrease healthcare access and standards (same with education), disenfranchise minorities...etc.
That depends on your definition of "right winger." Your average Republican is likely a fine person, but your average fascist isn't. If you:
- support Jan 6 rioters
- believe in QAnon
- believe in phrenology
- think we should have less immigration
You're probably not a good person. But if you merely believe in smaller government and think the GOP will give that to you, then you're probably fine. I don't have a problem with people who support the GOP (I do have a problem with the GOP itself), but I do have a problem with the right wing of the GOP and especially the few who the GOP consider "too radical" for the party.
The same is true for the left end of the spectrum as well. Basically, once you go too far down one end of the spectrum, there's a good chance you're self-selecting as a bad person.
If you want to use the might of government to right some "social wrong," we're probably not going to agree. Government should merely exist to maintain order and protect the vulnerable, it shouldn't be used to regiment society in any real way.
if you merely believe in smaller government and think the GOP will give that to you, then you’re delusional and gullible
Sure, but that doesn't make you a bad person.
I grew up as a fervent GOP supporter and thought they just weren't able to execute because I lived in a blue state, and then I moved to a red state and realized the problem isn't with any given party, but the lack of accountability when they have a clear majority.
So I now consider myself libertarian and vote for whichever candidate has a decent platform in a given election. In my state, that's usually libertarians and Democrats, and for President, it varies by election. My vote doesn't matter that much either way, but I try to do my due diligence anyway in case I can influence others who live in more interesting areas.
I dislike both major parties, but both field decent candidates from time to time. Unfortunately, that hasn't happened for President in quite some time though.
Government has been and still is used to regiment society in very real ways. In all likelihood it always will be used this way. Believing that it shouldn't serves to distract from that reality and from the actions of those who use it to achieve their goals. E.g. pushing for small government is often used to remove regulation so that capitalists can offload more of their costs (such as externalities) to the rest of society - a.k.a. socializing their losses.
No, they just make bad political decisions.
So you judge people by their actions not what they are?
You are your actions.
If someone consistently does horrible, hateful actions, guess what. They're a horrible, hateful person.
Absolutely, though I'm a believer that what they are is in part defined by their actions. Any label prescribed onto people is a mixture of identity and actions, and only the actions impact other people, and I personally believe that someone's moral worth is determined by the effects of their actions on other people.
If not by their actions, how do you judge someone? I cannot know "who they are" unless they either tell me or show me, and actions speak louder than words.
So many people will claim to be "good people" then go on a 20 minute rant about the "gay groomer agenda" and how gay people should "leave children alone" and how black people "commit too much crime and need to be policed more for it" when you give them one glass of wine and start talking about politics. Their overall stance is clear, and it isn't on the side of "being a good person."
Uh, yes. How else would you judge people?
I'm just asking. That's all.
Ok Tucker.
The prerequisite to identify yourself as a right-winger is to have a severe deficit in basic problem solving skills and the ability to logically deconstruct misinformation. While they're not all inherently bad people, they are absolutely being manipulated by some of the worst people this world has to offer and I say that without a grain of hyperbolism. The sheer amount of self-contradictions and hypocrisy that comes from right wing outlets makes my head spin but is often completely overlooked or willfully ignored by those who are made to support those positions out of fear or anger.
Conservatives are widely victims of the upper class mass-generating misinformation to keep people distracted on culture wars so they don't notice the desperate need for a class war. Socialism is compared to Communism, Communism is compared to the USSR, somehow reviving The Red Scare and in the next breath will praise Putin for the unprovoked slaughter of Ukrainians because 'that's what a strong leader does'. All of which is done to distract from policies that would make the rich less rich by making some of the worst possible takes. The mere fact gas stoves was actually turned into a culture war speaks volumes about how little these idiots need to generate outrage.
I pity them more than anything but I'm not immune to getting irrationally angry at the terminally stupid.
Now you're cooking with poison!
Yes they are
I was meh on the whole meta fediverse thing but yeah, fuck em. Already defederated them and they aren't even using it yet.
@JRepin The right is flush with cash from all these billionaire funded foundations. They mount such coordinated campaigns for their causes because they have that money. The tax code is the biggest enabler of the right’s rise. If the left ever gets a majority again, they need to remove tax loopholes for “charitable donations” to thinly veiled political organizations. It would definitely slow the influx of money.
Threads & Twitter? Tis a silly place!
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