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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by Imnecomrade@lemmygrad.ml to c/genzedong@lemmygrad.ml

Um, I am not sure how I feel about this. Why would Xi support a two-state solution? Isn't it more justified to have a one-state solution and return all of the land to the Palestinians? Won't a two-state solution eventually lead us back to another genocide? This feels off. I did not expect Xi to make such a statement.

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[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Because China has laid their foreign policy positions bare and have stood by them for over a decade at this point. A core tenant of that policy is a primary focus on local security, and a strong non-interference policy.

Further, directly supporting Palestine offers no real benefit to China and its policy goals, and it would be needlessly poking a hornets nest for little to nothing in return.

[-] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 11 months ago

not directly intervening or completely denouncing "Israel" doesn't imply that they don't care about Palestine

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 11 months ago

True, but that is irrelevant to the grand scheme of things. Whether or not Xi and the CPC leadership have different opinions, is neither important or even possible for us to know. All we can go off of is the policy position, and that policy position has been cold, calculating, and pragmatic. China will fulfill its own self interests first, and whether or not Xi finds it regrettable or wishes to support Palestine, Chinese leadership has little reason to care for the current conflict and the plight of Palestinians. They have bigger fish to fry, and this current stance is very much in line with the position they have taken for years on a myriad of conflicts.

[-] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 11 months ago

yes, they have to prioritize their own safety; my point is that that claiming that they don't care is likely untrue, and it plays into the stereotype of communist leaders as ruthless or uncaring

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 11 months ago

Of course, and I hope it didn't come across as me saying that the CPC don't care out of some cold ruthlessness, but more so in the sense that they "don't care" because not only does the event not involve them, but also because they cannot preform any meaningful action without destabilizing their position.

[-] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 11 months ago

that's fair enough

[-] idahocom@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 11 months ago

There's no pragmatic benefit to supporting Palestine, hence the current position, but ideologically the CPC has been pretty pro-palestine since at least the Mao-era. Also domestic opinion in China right now is definitely far more pro-palestine than the west.

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