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[–] AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social 45 points 11 months ago (4 children)

The lotto is an additional tax for people who don't understand math

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 50 points 11 months ago (3 children)

A lot of people understand how unfair the math is, and still buy the tickets because "you never know."

Source: I buy tickets sometimes because you never know...

[–] verysoft@kbin.social 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

If you can afford it, then it's no harm really. I've made a profit from the lottery myself, albeit a minor one. Depending on the lottery, it's not the worst thing you can give pocket change away to for a bit of fun. So I never understood this "you'll never win" mentality/gatekeeping hobbies, people know the chances, but it's fun either way.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

I think the big problem is that people who are addicted to gambling are being suckered several times a week. It's not really gambling, it's buying a daydream. If a casino gave you similar odds in one of their slots, it would likely be illegal based on the odds and the payout. So people who think of it like gambling are getting the worst of it. The expected value never approaches anything close to fair, even at rhe highest jackpots.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago

people know the chances

This article agrees. Huge caveat:

…Osmond…obtained a database from the Connecticut Lottery containing 21 years' worth of winners. What did he find?

They are largely poor, largely minorities, and often addicts.

The lottery preys on these people.

Vox, “4 ways the lottery preys on the poor”, 2016

[–] Phen 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I would sometimes buy one just to have something to wait for. It's cheaper than buying trash online.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 months ago

whip up some pizza dough and spend the week waiting for it to proof, then at the end you get a delicious pizza to look forward to

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

No, we do know. You will not win once.

Somebody might win a huge amount, but that one will not be you. I can guarantee that.

You will put in more money than you will get out. Somebody needs to pay their shareholders.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

How can you guarantee that? The chance is close to zero, but not zero - ergo you cannot be 100% sure that they won't win.

And that's the point they are trying to make - you don't need to be 100% logical to enjoy life. Sure, they probably won't win. But thinking they might, the anticipation of scratching the tickets, etc, is worth it to them.

[–] piecat@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Oh no, I spent $3 to dream of being rich. Anyways

[–] Jonny@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago

I always feel it's more of a tax on hope. I know a few folks who play and the understand the odds very well... but what if!

'What if' can be very appealing for only £2, even if it is incredibly, incredibly, (repeat incredibly a thousand more times) unlikely.

[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 2 points 11 months ago
[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago

What a silly belief. Everyone knows the odds are ridiculous. It's just that people are still hoping they'd win