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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 223 points 11 months ago (5 children)

"We're losing a lot of people because of the internet," Trump said. "We have to go see Bill Gates and a lot of different people that really understand what's happening. We have to talk to them about, maybe in certain areas, closing that Internet up in some way. Somebody will say, 'Oh freedom of speech, freedom of speech.' These are foolish people. We have a lot of foolish people."

He said this in 2015, folks. And we still elected him. We're fucked.

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 118 points 11 months ago (2 children)

'We' didn't elect him. A horde of deluded, ignorant douchebags in just the right states did.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 124 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No, a bunch of empty land elected him.

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 56 points 11 months ago

I can only imagine where the country would be if we reformed the Electoral College and the Senate. It's absurd to be giving 1 million people in Hickle Dickle the same votes as 30,000,000 in another state. Or even worse, in the EC people in small states get 3-4 times the voting power as citizens of some larger states.

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 37 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Don't forget the tens of millions of Americans who stayed home because "both parties are the same"

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's always the problem. Sometimes it's just a lack of motivation. Also don't discount voter suppression, like how voting day still is not a holiday and there's a significant lack of facilities in urban areas compared to suburban and rural regions. Nobody should have to wait in line for 5 hours (complete with BS like 'giving them water is a crime') to vote.

[–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If the Republicans allowed real democracy to happen, they'd never get elected. They've said this pretty openly.

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago

They used to claim they were the vast majority, silent majority, and so on, but it seems like they changed their tune on that and now it's "we don't need a majority! We're a constitutional republic"

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Even worse. The single issue voters, or hard core progressive voters who voted independent or wrote in names on their ballot because they didn't get their way. They know who was better for America out of the two real choices, but made the statement of "I'd rather see the country burn than participate"

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The faction of the party that formed a PAC to elect McCain/Palin doesn't get to lecture people about jumping ship when they don't get their first choice.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm saying that the same PUMAs who jumped ship and tried to give us VP Palin are hypocrites when they scream at progressives for not voting in accordance with their sense of entitlement.

[–] idiomaddict@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I still don’t understand. Are you saying democrats forced palin through in order to turn republicans off and are now surprised that progressives don’t want to vote for a candidate they don’t like?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In 2008, when Clinton lost the primary to Obama, her supporters formed a PAC to try to get McCain/Palin elected. They didn't get their very first choice and behaved worse than they accuse progressives of being.

Progressives didn't form a PAC to elect Trump. Centrists did form a PAC to elect McCain/Palin.

[–] idiomaddict@feddit.de 2 points 10 months ago

Oof. I assumed it was at least because they thought palin was a ballot killer. I guess not

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

A quick browse of this community will show you that a large percentage of the users here fall into that category.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 43 points 11 months ago (3 children)

We have to go see Bill Gates

This line... Lol

"Hi Bill, you're the CEO of the internet, right? I'm going to need you to turn it off for me. Thanks."

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

He saw that South Park episode and thought it was a documentary.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Well he doesn’t know Al Gore personally, for some reason he never seemed to show up to Epstein’s parties

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

tfw someone breaks it to him that he'll have to call Al Gore...

[–] CarlsIII@kbin.social 27 points 11 months ago

It’s amazing, he’s said so many terrible things, I’m still learning about stuff like this he said years ago.

[–] Entropywins@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago

That's just locker room talk...

[–] thesprongler@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Ironically he got elected in large part because of his always online meme army. I'm guessing that part of the Internet sticks around.