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Do you consider Bernie Sanders left wing?
On Hexbear and Lemmygrad, we generally use “left” in its original meaning: the abolition of private ownership of the means of production. So Bernie is not on the left; he’s center-left at best.
After the actual left was purged from American politics through two red scares and the cold war, in Orwelian fashion, “left”—and even “socialism”—came to be redefined into politics not incompatible with capitalism, such that Americans don’t even have words for real anticapitalist politics anymore.
I don’t understand how you have a three year old Hexbear account that has been pretty active, and you’re asking whether we consider Sanders to be on the left, and why we think Rogan is a reactionary.
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I don't
In American electoral politics, he'd be considered left-wing (not necessarily even leftist).
But his politics, at least his talking-points, are centrist at best.
he's a center-left social democrat.