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[–] nirodhaavidya@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (4 children)

That consciousness arises from matter as some emergent phenomenon. Integrated information theory, micro-tubules, or whatever: no.

I believe consciousness is fundamental.

[–] HerrBeter@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 9 points 10 months ago

They probably mean that consciousness does not arrive from matter - that there is some other thing that causes consciousness, like another fundamental particle or whatever.

Essentially they are arguing for the existence of the "soul" or "spirit" in some fashion or another. Definitely unscientific as we have no evidence of such a thing.

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The problem with consciousness is that everyone has different idea what is is.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's the fundamental problem with everything, though.

[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I disagree with you, but that's because your comment means something entirely different to me.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And I, in turn, accept your apology.

[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 4 points 10 months ago

That's not scientifically proven though, just an idea.

[–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago

i agree, but i dont think any scientist seriously believes they have the answer to this debate. (i may be wrong)