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An example is that I generally despise Jordan Peterson and most of what he says, but I often quote one thing that Jordan Peterson said (in the linked video) because I think it's a good summary of why toxic positivity doesn't work.

People (who hate JP) freak out when I quote him and say "Why tf are you quoting Jordan Peterson? Are you a insert thing that Jordan Peterson is?" And I'm like "No, I generally disagree with him on most points, aside from this one thing." But they don't believe or accept it and assume that I must be a #1 Jordan Peterson fan or something.

I think it can be considered a partial agreement, majority disagreement. Or a partial agreement with a person you generally disagree with. But I'd be open to other terms of how to describe this in a way people can understand.

Also, to avoid the controversy of referencing Jordan Peterson, if anyone has a better summary of the same concept explained by a different person in a way as well as he does, that would be appreciated too.

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[–] Lafari@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

... I'm not sure what the opposite of toxic positivity is, but probably not that. Basically acknowledging problems and working from there in a positive direction, rather than simply denying problems and pretending everything's fine when it isn't. A google search tells me "tragic optimism" can be described as the opposing concept, whether that fits or not.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That guy is beyond toxic to me. I've never seen a less self-aware and more mentally ill psychologist.

I would see this guy before I ever entertained being in the same postal code as Peterson

He's taking advantage of young, desperate, vulnerable men and its beyond infuriating as it is discouraging and dangerous.

[–] Lafari@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Well I completely agree with you there 😂

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago