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An example is that I generally despise Jordan Peterson and most of what he says, but I often quote one thing that Jordan Peterson said (in the linked video) because I think it's a good summary of why toxic positivity doesn't work.

People (who hate JP) freak out when I quote him and say "Why tf are you quoting Jordan Peterson? Are you a insert thing that Jordan Peterson is?" And I'm like "No, I generally disagree with him on most points, aside from this one thing." But they don't believe or accept it and assume that I must be a #1 Jordan Peterson fan or something.

I think it can be considered a partial agreement, majority disagreement. Or a partial agreement with a person you generally disagree with. But I'd be open to other terms of how to describe this in a way people can understand.

Also, to avoid the controversy of referencing Jordan Peterson, if anyone has a better summary of the same concept explained by a different person in a way as well as he does, that would be appreciated too.

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[–] ilmagico@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That's because you're on the internet, and nuance doesn't exist. It requires thinking, which is hard.

Note: I don't know JP and don't have an opinion on him (yet). I'm responding only to the question in the title.

[–] u_tamtam@programming.dev 3 points 11 months ago

I mean, the internet was fine until the advent of global "engagement-driven social networks" that practically became filter bubbles optimizing for ads delivery, then echo chambers for political gain, down to self-sustained propaganda machines for geopolitical sabotage. Early internet felt like village-scale communities centered around a single purpose/interests where people came in the first place to contribute something or help each other. Trolls did exist but there was no tolerance for them because the absence of centralization meant they didn't have to be accepted there in the first place.

[–] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago

nuance doesn't exist

I think it's a little more nuanced than that...