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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Then it's not unlimited and I'd rather just know how much time I can take off, than wondering if I'm skirting the limits.

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 4 points 10 months ago

I totally agree that it's better to know in advance. But that's part of the strategy it seems, you're too afraid to push it, so you get too few

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't think a place like that exists I think OP's friend is just lying to them to excuse why they got fired. I've never heard of a company with unlimited holidays but then fire somebody for taking them.

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Nah, ey were not fired (yet?) and I also worked there before unlimited vacations became a thing, so I kinda think they may went that way. As was said somewhere around this comment with unlim you can guilt/fear your employees into working more and then not pay them unspent days.

Edit: clarity

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Where is this? What is the point in guilt in your employees to work in longer hours when you can just contract them to work longer hours perfectly legally?

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I think the benefits to the company of "unlimited time off" are

  • they don't have to pay out unused time off if the person leaves
  • they don't have to keep track of it as closely
  • sometimes people take less time off, so they get more working hours out of people
  • it looks good on paper to applicants
[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

they don't have to pay out unused time off

Many companies don't do that even with fixed time off: see every company I ever worked at.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

Interesting! I grew up in WA and currently live in UT, and neither require it, though my dad had his paid out when he retired (company policy).

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago

Exactly

Also, I guess there are some fine print conditions like you get less bonuses if you're not working enough, or you're only eligible after working for some time. But that details I don't know

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago

In a third world, not EU or US, surely. The contracts and obligations are treated differently there