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The first one the answer is that, well first of all thats reductive as hell but more importantly romanceable NPCs are not real people. You cant manipulate them.
The second is just a reason you pulled out of your ass to decide that something you dont like is a moral bad, like all anti-art freaks do. Fuck off to twitter with that mindset. Theres nothing inherently unacceptable about that. You just said some words.
How the fuck do you expect a game like The Sims to work under you rules? And hell, if youre right, which youre not, why is it acceptable in porn anyway? Wouldnt it still be (what you consider) harmful there too?
"The Sims isnt a game" lol. Do you just make up your own definitions of things to be annoying?
No. If "manipulating NPCs" is harmful then it always is. It isnt, but if it is its harmful in porn games too. Because the player is still performing the same actions and learning the same things from it.
I do not want to make a new thread about that. Its my thread and i dont mind being off topic. If you want to explain why The Sims is not a game, do it here.
The core point here is that if "manipulating NPCs" teaches the player a harmful lesson then it doesnt matter whether the game is porn or just a romance sidequest. The context would not change the lesson in this case. Its functionally the same, it jusf changes whether there's a hardcore sex scene at the end or not.
Porn consumers might actually be less likely to apply such a thing judicioisly. You have way too much faith that if you put it in the category of porn people will change how they process it. I think people who cant seperate fantasy from reality are going to do so regardless. Consumers of pornographic VNs tend to have even worse views of women than regular capital G gamers. Certainly worse views of women than SDV fans, many of whom are women. And SDV has dating mechanics, but a very wholesome fandom.
All in all theres no reason to limit what devs are and arent allowed to creativly explore. Because even with your weird idiosyncratic view of what art is, it still doesnt disqualify video games from being a medium through which people creativly express themselves.
Anyway, this "Hayes code/comics code is good actually" type thinking is extremally weird.
Like I said, this already happens much more with pornographic VN fans than with fans of farm sims where you can get married, The Sims fanbase (overwhelmingly female fanbase btw), or even people who play Bioware games. Your theory here has no basis in reality.