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[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (2 children)

IDK if it's that or just the fact that there's both a lot of us and a great sense of nationalism instilled in us from a very young age. I've been to Mt. Rushmore twice. Only recently did I learn about how it was a sacred site to the native people that we promised to leave alone, before stealing it and blowing it to hell.

What I'm getting at is that we're taught that America is the greatest nation on the planet, and we're encouraged to be loud about that statement. So when a certain group of people in the government who are also very loud about their beliefs start saying some things that might sound completely bonkers to a foreigner, a lot of people find themselves agreeing purely because they like the attitude of the people talking.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Visiting Rushmore as a non-American is even weirder than you imagine.

The levels of over the top blatantly performative "patriotism" is quite bizarre to be surrounded by.

And the suspicious looks we got for not participating enthusiastically was discomforting (no, I'm not going to recite a pledge of allegiance to your country. Why would you expect me to?)

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Now imagine a Confederate version with more racism and you have Stone Mountain.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I hate this country sometimes.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

The country is okay. It's just the people I don't like.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Yeah sorry about that. They’re similarly awful to live near.

And the reality is Mt Rushmore is mostly going to be visited by people like that and foreigners. Mt Rushmore is one of the principal sacred sites of the American civil religion. Treat them like religious pilgrims because they kinda were, but they don’t even realize it. The pledge of allegiance is a prayer to adherents.

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You think brainwashing may have something to do with it?

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah that's essentially what I wanted to describe.

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I agree. Definitely brainwashing.