I think you're onto something there. For me it's the fact that they insist we are comrades and friends, but it's clearly not genuine. If a friend talked to me like I talk to them, I would seriously re-evaluate who I am and what I believe. Either way I would not insist that we are "still comrades" despite having a "minor disagreement".

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's the thing, they think it is genuine. They think they are "seeing the person on the other side of the screen" and we are failing to do the same. Any time I ever see anyone trying to remind the person they're talking to to "remember the human" it's always someone insisting on "humanity for me, not for thee."

They just flatly aren't understanding that we've seen plenty of people in their position before, and seen those people get better and improve, and examine their own beliefs critically.

I've seen this exact thing in plenty of local organising (and in myself). The guy who encourages us to vote for the "least bad" candidate in bourgeoisie election and discourages others from reading or actively doing anything they find uncomfortable because it "won't help." Finding some excuse as to why their way of doing this is the only correct one, and when they receive pushback, it is always just "people talking past each other" even when it's literally everyone else in the room telling them that they understand their position, but their position is not an acceptable one to have.

It's always a comfortable middle class white guy doing it as well. Someone so used to eating up all the oxygen in the room that they just flat out aren't even aware that they are doing it.

And yeah, their constant insistence that we are "friends" is just code for "This conversation is challenging my pre-concieved notions and making me feel uncomfortable, so stop doing that." but again, they don't seem to realise that we've seen this before, and know how bullshit they're being.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Couldn't have said it better myself.

In addition it's funny that's he's trying to pull the "I wouldn't tell my non-binary what to do" but he feels comfortable educating me. Also misgendering me, but we're apparently still comrades lol. It's just a tiny misunderstanding, just a tiny disagreement.

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I just saw that, funny how the left libs always talk about respecting people, but abandon that respect the instant they are no longer treated as The Most Important Person In The Room. I think this was just a mistake on their part, but we'll see. I have a feeling that their apology (if they even acknowledge that they misgendered you) will be incredibly backhanded and blaming you for their actions.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Haha they just gave one where they said they hadn't noticed the pronouns. Funny that I already pointed it out to them once, but they kept at it. Then they once again tried to trivialize the discussion. Didn't read past that.

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It was even worse than I thought! You should read it, it's hilarious. They're lucky it's late and I need to head to bed soon, or else I'd probably spend the next couple of hours dunking on this shitlib who thinks they're a communist because they're "open minded" or some shit.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 16 points 8 months ago

Lmao I just read the last line "you ruined that for me" rage-cry
Lol.