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[-] darkcalling@lemmygrad.ml 58 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Ukrainian/USA backed terrorists I guarantee.

RT reports at least 40 killed and a hundred injured. Numbers probably going to go up.

And the thing is, this is even more pointless than your average terrorist attack, this is pure blood-lust and desire to butcher Russian civilians KNOWING it won't change anything because Russia has suffered deadlier attacks including on children in the past 25 years and they didn't deter it in Chechnya or any other regions. So even the usual justification for butchering civilians that it will shock the government or people into change is a known factor, a false one with this specific country.

This is just the start. The US is not happy about the results of Ukraine and intends to severely punish the Russian people for choosing Putin again and for withstanding their sanctions.

I also guarantee that the US and west will try their hardest to spin this as a bunch of disgruntled Russians upset about Putin's authoritarian rule and that their weapons, training, idea just poofed out of thin air. Else it could be IS type extremists who are of course a western puppet and would only be in Russia at CIA insistence. They can't allow wholesome bean Ukraine to be associated with this type of behavior despite it being exactly the SBU's modus operandi. Doesn't matter whether the attackers were native Russians or what, guarantee if they aren't IS that they were trained, radicalized, motivated, probably armed by SBU which is a proxy subsidiary of the CIA.

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 51 points 7 months ago

Liberals already in agreement this is a false flag by Russia to checks notes justify invading ukraine.

Once again, indistinguishable from Alex Jones as far as political analysis but still somehow unbelievably smug.

[-] Addfwyn@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 7 months ago

When your understanding of geopolitics is "Putin is a saturday morning cartoon villain and Ukraine are the heroes" you kind of have to make the most logical leaps to justify something like this. They aren't capable of nuance.

[-] Mzuark@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 7 months ago

It's impossible to get it through their thick heads that Putin doesn't need a false flag to get support. There is no reason for him to do this.

[-] ihaveibs@lemmygrad.ml 36 points 7 months ago

Already seeing libs call this a false flag attack. So that stage has been set already if proof comes out that Ukraine was responsible

[-] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 33 points 7 months ago

They also called the bombing in Iran a false flag attack

[-] SadArtemis@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 7 months ago

The US is not happy about the results of Ukraine and intends to severely punish the Russian people for choosing Putin again and for withstanding their sanctions.

Honestly, I can't help but look forward to when the tables turn, and the world inevitably gets in at least some punishment on the west in turn. It can't and won't be an eye for an eye - because frankly, alongside how wrong that would be, there is simply not enough of the west to do so- there would be nothing left of the west in such a scenario, and even then their debts would not be resolved- but it will be in, if nothing else, distrust and distancing as other options develop, and in all the social backlash that centuries of westerners plaguing the rest of humanity with genocides, slavery, and imperialism will have earned.

I say this all as someone living in the west myself- and frankly, if and when I get the hell out, I certainly would only ever, having experienced living in the west myself, caution and promote a distrust, disinvestment, and defensive if not outright hostile stance towards the west. As I see it, it's the sad truth that I would like nothing more than to be false, and the only good advice one could ever give, knowing how the western imperial cores are like- what racist, supremacist, liberal, etc. poisons lurk within our societies, and what the nature of our institutions are, etc.

500 years of atrocities, culminating in decades of global hegemony and unmatched arrogance have wrought their toll on the west, and anyone claiming otherwise, or that it can be easily washed away, is naive. And this is alongside the nature of capitalism, and imperialism in particular, which dominates the west; the only sensible approach to these societies as I see it is one which forever watches its back, which constantly expects the worst (because either way, the worst will come to pass), which knows that no matter the present circumstances, one is dealing with- particularly in the western institutions and elite, rabid dogs which in will inevitably, in due time, attack and devour everything in their sight without restraint. These are societies whose contradictions drive them to, even when they are at the top of the world, cannibalize and destroy their own peoples in turn; these are societies that have been unable to change their core, imperialist, racist, monstrous character even over the course of centuries (with Russia as the exception proving the rule, and showing just how extensive the efforts must be even in a country which had never stooped to quite the same lows as its west European/Anglo peers, and even then how precarious the results also will be, in cleansing the colonial, or colonizer's, mindset from their society).

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

My thoughts as well but I was hesitant to put anything down without evidence. Who else would it be? Who benefits?

[-] Red_Scare@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 7 months ago

Islamic State claimed responsibility for the attack late on Friday, in a post on Telegram in which the group claimed its gunmen had managed to escape afterwards.

[-] Mzuark@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 7 months ago

How nice of ISIS to keep us in the loop like this.

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