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The Deprogram Podcast

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International Anti-Capitalist podcast run by an American, Slav and an Arab.

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[–] ikilledtheradiostar@hexbear.net 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

he's managing to provide a living for 4 people

Quit being a lib. Those 5 people are providing the living. If he is extracting profits from them then they are exploited. Full stop.

I support secondthought i can also understand why its not perfect. This is the critical support.

[–] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Those people are providing a living for themselves, all I'm saying is that working with someone on a project where they're very involved and you're all passionate about it and you don't have to balance that with another full time job is nice.

Until the workers come out and say that they feel that JT is exploiting them or using them this whole relationship seems to be fine compared to the alternative of working for a company that directly seeks to exploit you to the maximum extent.

I'm sure cooperative ownership isn't out of the question for this project, but there isn't really much money in communist propaganda so it's amazing that they're able to support 4 salaries doing it.

[–] D61@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But if you're doing the work, its not profit, its pay right?

[–] Galli@hexbear.net 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

it's 5 people's work, if JT receives a greater share of the surplus due to being the owner than he would if they were all equal partners then he is exploiting the other workers. It's the relationship of him as the owner and them as the employees that matters here.

[–] D61@hexbear.net 1 points 7 months ago

Sure. Though I suppose somebody could just ask JT directly the how's and why's. Not as a "gotcha!" but as an explainer on how to set up something like this in a capitalist hellscape.

But should any of this change my opinions about JT or Second Thought or The Deprogram? Its not a big enough sin for me.