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[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 71 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Yeah, and there's a fair amount of money behind this push.....which like....I'm not American, don't live in the States, but my sister and her wife do...and I've gotta figure out how to get them the fuck out if things go Trump again....

Edit: also, living in the UK I run into loads of people who go "Well, if Trump gets in again, that's not really our problem..." but like....the USA makes they're problems everyone's problem. And another Trump presidential term would be a huge problem for the rest of the world....

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

also, living in the UK

Yeah, I've been following UK politics by way of TrashFuture podcast and I gotta say... your immigration plan is to deport people to Rwanda and your government just endorsed a Trans-Panic Committee to decide whether teenagers can consent to gender-affirming care.

And these are the moderate Labour Party positions. Liz Truss wants to do worse.

God damn, dude. Finding the worst people to run the country is not a competition. You can just let the Yanks have this one.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

They look at our right wing propaganda machine to see what "works." They also get the added "benefit" of our toxic sludge that is online political discourse to feed off of. They don't need new issues as they have a repository of shit to pick from...

Why does Americas #2 export need to be toxic right wing bullshit....

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wait, what’s #1? It’s freedom, right?

[–] Jeanschyso@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

It's "the news".

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Its how we get our hooks into you, so we can dissolve your NHS and replace it with our vastly more profitable private health care system.

[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Finding the worst people to run the country is not a competition.

I'm only here on a marriage visa, I'm not a P.R or citizen yet, so I'm not allowed to vote against having these bigots and con-men in power. Also, while labour is somewhat moderate, the Tories are in power, and they're a bunch of fucking nut jobs. Labour can't decide what they stand for anymore, which means they will stand for nothing, and the rest of the available parties will never get to power again. The available options are shit, just like in the States. And the Yanks think they invented having a shit government, but lemme tell you, the Brits have been fucking up their own government and foreign governments for a lot longer the the US has been a thing.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

As a yank who’s followed British politics for a while, I wouldn’t blame labour’s bullshit on the tories. They seem to have done the same thing in response to thatcher that the Dems did to Reagan “ok sure we can be the neutral centrist party, we’ll be conservative while you be regressive”. When I see actual left wing ideas coming out of the UK it’s either from your queer folks, a small and vulnerable actual left wing, or from the SNP. Even now with the tories wildly unpopular Labour seems to be taking the attitude of “we should reach across the aisle and offer to do what they propose”.

But you are right we learned how to govern from two sources, you and the Iroquois confederacy, and the Iroquois functioned (they still do, but they did then too).

[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

you and the Iroquois

Yeah, I'm Canadian buddy.

Edit: I'm not disagreeing with anything you said, just to tired to formulate a proper response, might come back to this tomorrow.

[–] quaddo@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

In a similar situation here in NZ. On a perm resident visa through partnership, can’t vote, keenly interested in being on my best behaviour here. Labour wasn’t amazeballs, but the current coalition is like watching a pack of dogs with diarrhoea tear through a quiet town. You just know it’ll be on someone else to clean up after them.

[–] thr0w4w4y2@sh.itjust.works 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The UK gets whatever the US gets, it just sometimes lags by a few years depending on how long it takes for the US to excrete it over here.

[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

As seen with all the decisions made by the Tories over the last decade.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

While that's partly true, Boris was your own fault. Let's just blame the Australians.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Rupert Murdoch and his consequences have been a disaster for the anglosphere

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah we’ll take the uk and Canada down with us. Honestly probably the EU and we’ll try for Russia as well

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

I doubt even Trump can fuck the UK harder than its fucking itself rn.